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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 05:51pm
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Question ummmmm

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Except it is addressed

Section 10. Officials’ Duties Related to Conduct
The officials shall:
Art. 1. Penalize unsportsmanlike conduct by a player, coach, substitute, team attendant or follower.

A.R. 15. After a foul is called against a home team player, just before the free-thrower releases the ball, he/she is hit by a coin thrown by a spectator. RULING: Assess an indirect technical foul against the home team, award the visiting team two free throws and put the ball in play at the point of interruption. (See Rule 10-5.2.)
Good point, except that is an example of a deadball situation - free throws. What happens in a live ball situation where the potential shot could be worth 3 points?
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 05:55pm
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Good point, except that is an example of a deadball situation - free throws. What happens in a live ball situation where the potential shot could be worth 3 points?
A.R. 14. Who is responsible for behavior of spectators? RULING: The home management or game committee, insofar as it can reasonably be expected to control the spectators, is responsible. The officials may call indirect technical fouls on either team when its supporters act in such a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the game, such technical fouls do not count as team fouls
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 06:00pm
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A.R. 14. Who is responsible for behavior of spectators? RULING: The home management or game committee, insofar as it can reasonably be expected to control the spectators, is responsible. The officials may call indirect technical fouls on either team when its supporters act in such a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the game, such technical fouls do not count as team fouls
Bravo Dan... Bravo....

Gentlemen, I think Dan just answered your question (at least the way NCAA expects you to do so).
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 06:07pm
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What about a neutral court game, like a tournament?

There is no home management, or the home management may not be from one of the teams competing.

Just for kicks, assume that not only something like this happens, but also it is the NCAA Div I Men's Championship game.

That would rank right up there with the parachute jumper falling in on Bowe v Lewis (? i think) in the middle of a round.
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Bravo Dan... Bravo....

Gentlemen, I think Dan just answered your question (at least the way NCAA expects you to do so).
Hey!! I answered it the same way 10 hours sooner!! Don't I get some dap?

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In a regular season game, it's much more likely that the person who threw the ball would be rooting for the other team, so you have the T at your disposal.
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 06:25pm
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Hey!! I answered it the same way 10 hours sooner!! Don't I get some dap?
Bravo Chuck... Bravo


(does that make you feel better?)
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 07:43pm
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Bravo Chuck... Bravo


(does that make you feel better?)
Immeasurably!!
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 08:10pm
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Immeasurably!!
Good.

Now you can go climb up your tree & really have a good time.

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Old Wed Jun 28, 2006, 05:58am
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Bravo Dan... Bravo....

Gentlemen, I think Dan just answered your question (at least the way NCAA expects you to do so).
How do you know the guy that threw the ball up was a supporter of either team? Without knowing something like this, how can you asses the T?
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Remember, however... in this situation, I clearly stated that the person involved had nothing to do with either team. This might not be so clear in a real game situation, but lets say it is an overexuberant 12 year old who knows the gym will be open after the game, and just jumps the gun on throwing the ball out on the court to get ready to play. Penalizing either team with a T would be unfair to that team, as the person didn't act for or against either - it was just a bad timing and aim issue.

I like the 30 second time reset, with overtime being my second favorite. But the overtime might be a better sell... I think you'd have trouble with getting the coaches to be happy with the 30 second thing. JMHO. I'm glad to see it is a situation that generated some conversation!
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Old Tue Jun 27, 2006, 07:42pm
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Good point, except that is an example of a deadball situation - free throws. What happens in a live ball situation where the potential shot could be worth 3 points?
Huh?

The ball is live on a free throw as soon as the FT shooter gets it. You can't score with a dead ball. That's a basketball basic.
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