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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 03:05pm
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help with over & back play
A1 in the front court passes to A2, B1 tips the pass to the backcourt. A3 recovers the ball in the backcourt--my partner called over and back. Since the pass was tipped by B1 I thought it was OK for A3 to recover--was I right or did my partner call it correct?
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 03:17pm
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A1 in the front court passes to A2, B1 tips the pass to the backcourt. A3 recovers the ball in the backcourt--my partner called over and back. Since the pass was tipped by B1 I thought it was OK for A3 to recover--was I right or did my partner call it correct?
If B1 touched the ball then A3 can recover it. Even if the ball is touched (not controlled), it can still be recovered by A3. You have to have had control of the ball for it to be back court.
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 03:33pm
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If B1 touched the ball then A3 can recover it. Even if the ball is touched (not controlled), it can still be recovered by A3. You have to have had control of the ball for it to be back court.
Almost right. Actually, if B1 was the last to touch it in the front court, or the first to touch it in the back court A3 is okay to recover it. But if B1 tipped it off A2 while in the front, and then A3 went in the back and recovered it, that would be a violation.
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 04:01pm
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Even if the ball is touched (not controlled), it can still be recovered by A3.
Explain please.
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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 04:45pm
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I will join in the discussion, if that is okay. When the last poster stated that "if B1 tipped the ball off A2" or words to that affect, he was referring to team control. Team A in the front court still is in control until they either attempt a try, or Team B clearly secures control or a dead ball situation occurs. So if Team B merely tips the ball, they have not secured control and if the tip touches a Team A member and then goes into the backcourt, then Team A members can not be the first to touch it in backcourt without it being a backcourt violation. I am referring to Chapter 4 Section 12; Art 3 and 4 of HS Rule book and Chapter 4, Sect 13, Art 3 of the NCAA Rulebook.

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Old Fri Jun 30, 2006, 05:37pm
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Well aware of that, Michael. I'm simply asking IREFU2 what he meant by his statment.
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SECTION 9 BACKCOURT
ART. 1 . . . A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.

Doesnt seem like there was team control.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 08:15pm
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SECTION 9 BACKCOURT
ART. 1 . . . A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.

Doesnt seem like there was team control.
Wrong, team control by team A isn't lost until team B gains player control, the ball becomes dead, or team A takes a shot. NFHS rule 4-12-3. A B player touching the ball does not mean that team A will lose team control.
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Old Sun Jul 02, 2006, 09:28pm
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SECTION 9 BACKCOURT
ART. 1 . . . A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.

Doesnt seem like there was team control.

Yes there was.
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SECTION 9 BACKCOURT
ART. 1 . . . A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.

Doesnt seem like there was team control.
There was team control indeed.
But team control is not the only requisite...
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I know this is WAY off topic, but I think the topic has been adquately covered (i.e A3 should have been permitted to recover the ball in the back court due to the touch by B1).

I just wanted to note that TADW's Latin Blog is quite impressive. I took 4 years of Latin in college, but to have a whole blog in Latin . . .WOW.

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