Backcourt Violation - Mavs Heat

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Not so sure about that...while Howard was asking for the t.o., Avery and his asst coach (the one who used to be a head coach someplace) were both yelling "No" and giving the big wave-off sign...the ref certainly could have been aware of that...I think that's why Crawford came in and tried to talk de Rosa out of it, but he'd already blown and signalled so by then it really was too late.

Crawford didn't try to talk DeRosa out of it. Salvatore did. Why? Because he heard the Mav coaches. But he did not know Howard are made the request. Joe says, "Bennett, he requested it twice and signaled." Then Bennett says. "I didn't realize that." Joe again signals TO. Crawford then just tried to calm Johnson down and then went to Joe and Bennett just to make sure everyone was in agreement. Once DeRosa whistles the TO, it 's a TO.

Bottom line, Howard screwed up and Johnson screwed up. It would have been unfair to Miami to have said, "That didn't mean to call TO. We'll just let that go," after the TO has obviously been granted.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Crawford didn't try to talk DeRosa out of it. Salvatore did. Why? Because he heard the Mav coaches. But he did not know Howard are made the request. Joe says, "Bennett, he requested it twice and signaled." Then Bennett says. "I didn't realize that." Joe again signals TO. Crawford then just tried to calm Johnson down and then went to Joe and Bennett just to make sure everyone was in agreement. Once DeRosa whistles the TO, it 's a TO.

Bottom line, Howard screwed up and Johnson screwed up. It would have been unfair to Miami to have said, "That didn't mean to call TO. We'll just let that go," after the TO has obviously been granted.

I agree that Howard screwed up...I also think DeRosa could have realized the bench was yelling "no" and not blown his whistle...certainly didn't cost Dallas the game - they blew that all on their own.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I agree that Howard screwed up...I also think DeRosa could have realized the bench was yelling "no" and not blown his whistle...certainly didn't cost Dallas the game - they blew that all on their own.

From what I saw DJ, the Mavs weren't yelling "no" until after the TO was granted. There would be no reason for them to yell before the request and the grant.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

From what I saw DJ, the Mavs weren't yelling "no" until after the TO was granted. There would be no reason for them to yell before the request and the grant.

Hmmm...could have sworn Del Harris was up waving his arms and yelling and then Avery Johnson started also before DeRosa blew the whistle...but hey, I've been wrong before...anyway, Howard shouldn't have brain-farted...and missing two free throws with under 10 seconds to go didn't help Dallas either...