Lil Tester

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by MichiganOfficial
Wow, Seems this "LiL Tester" has stured some good conversation and has branched off into other areas. Lets remember what happened during this play and not what we think happened, so before we answer let read it all the way through and look at the intent of A1 and that should give us our answer.
Michigan Official

What in the world are you talking about? I read that A1 reached out and pushed B1's arm away. That's a pushing foul. I'm not "thinking" anything else into the play.

From your original post:

Originally posted by MichiganOfficial
A1 inbounding the ball in the front court, B1 in front of A1 but not breaking the plain. A1 frustrated that he/she can't get the ball by the outstreched arms of B1, A1 reaches out and with one hand moves the arm of B1 and throws the ball in to A2.

What was A1's intent? Clearly it was to move B1's arm out of his way so that he could throw a pass to his teammate.

Now are you saying that every time a player reaches out and pushes a defender's arm away, it should be an intentional foul because his intent was to move the defender's arm away?

How about a dribbler who pushes off with his off arm? How about a player making a V cut who pushes his defender away from him in order to get open to receive a pass from a teammate? Aren't these intentionals pushes? Are you contending that they should be ruled intentional fouls?

If we forget the throw-in aspect of the play and put this play just barely in the frontcourt near the division line and then the exact same events occur are you calling an intentional personal foul?

Could you please tell me exactly why you are certain that under NFHS rules this push should be ruled an intentional personal foul?

I seriously doubt that you are implying that only accidental pushes are common fouls and all purposeful pushes are intentional fouls, so what is your criterion?