Pregame Technical Foul

[ETSUOfficial]

In NFHS, a pregame technical foul is given to Team B for a dunk during pregame. Team A begins regulation with the ball at midcourt. Does Team B get the possession arrow?

[Almost Always Right]

Yes

[Almost Always Right]

Just to add to that:
What happens to the head coach(if anything)?
Does it count as a team foul?
Is it administrative?
Just a couple of questions to get the juices flowing.
TR

[ETSUOfficial]

Originally posted by Almost Always Right
Just to add to that:
What happens to the head coach(if anything)?
Does it count as a team foul?
Is it administrative?
Just a couple of questions to get the juices flowing.
TR

My understanding - Coach is charged an indirect technical foul. He sits for the rest of the game. The player is given a tech, personal, and the team is given a team foul.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by ETSUOfficial

My understanding - Coach is charged an indirect technical foul. He sits for the rest of the game. The player is given a tech, personal, and the team is given a team foul.

Almost right.

The player is not given a "personal". The T does, though, count as one of the five fouls toward the player's disqualification.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

Almost right.

The player is not given a "personal". The T does, though, count as one of the five fouls toward the player's disqualification.

And remember, this is for NFHS. FIBA, NCAA, NBA, CBL, and any other rule systems out there might be different.

[thumpferee]

Originally posted by ETSUOfficial

My understanding - Coach is charged an indirect technical foul. He sits for the rest of the game. The player is given a tech, personal, and the team is given a team foul.

Correct. See Technical Foul Summary Chart

Where is the Rule reference for the change of arrow on this ? I know I read it somewhere, but I can't find it.

[ETSUOfficial]

[[/B][/QUOTE]

Almost right.

The player is not given a "personal". The T does, though, count as one of the five fouls toward the player's disqualification.
[/B][/QUOTE]

In refering to a personal foul, I am refering the fact that a technical foul does count towards the five for disqualification.

[DownTownTonyBrown]

The arrow becomes SET once Team A completes their throw-in.

Once Team A has inbounded the ball, the arrow should be set to Team B.

I'm looking at an old book (01-02) but check around Rule 8-5-2, 6-3-1, and 4-3.

[thumpferee]

AHHHHH!

Case Play 6.4.1 Sit A

Thanks DTTB!

[Daryl H. Long]

If B1 dunks here are the penalties.

1. Technical foul on player B1. This counts toward his disqualification for 2 T's or 5 fouls and as a team foul toward bonus. (10.3.4; Technical Foul Plenalty Summary pg 73 rule book; 4.8.2)
2. Coach of Team B is given an indirect T. He also loses coaching box and muxt sit for remainder of the game. (4.19.5.e; 10.3.4.Penalty; 10.5.3 note 1)
3. The game starts with any Team A player at the line for two free throws. (10.3 Penalty, 8.3)
4. The arrow is set IMMEDIATELY toward team B when A has the ball at his/her disposal for a throwin following the freethrows (4.3.3) Do not wait for the throwin to be completed.

[Edited by Daryl H. Long on Jan 26th, 2005 at 06:38 PM]

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by rainmaker

And remember, this is for NFHS. FIBA, NCAA, NBA, CBL, and any other rule systems out there might be different.

Nope, not in the NBA.

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
The arrow becomes SET once Team A completes their throw-in.

Once Team A has inbounded the ball, the arrow should be set to Team B.

Actually, the arrow is set when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower, not after the throw-in is complete. Why? Because Team A's throwin is NOT an AP throw-in.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
The arrow becomes SET once Team A completes their throw-in.

Once Team A has inbounded the ball, the arrow should be set to Team B.

I'm looking at an old book (01-02) but check around Rule 8-5-2, 6-3-1, and 4-3.

Not quite.

4-3-3b: The initial direction of the arrow is set toward the opponent's basket when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower after the free throws for a noncommon foul.

This way, if there's a held ball on the throw-in (A holds the ball over the court, B ties it up), we'll have a posession arrow off of which to base our call.

[QuebecRef87]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Nope, not in the NBA.

Um... Watch out for the punctuation!

And remember, this is for NFHS. (STOP) FIBA, NCAA, NBA, CBL, and any other rule systems out there might be different.

:-P