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Old Mon Feb 12, 2024, 09:09pm
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Agree. Practical was poor word choice.

Bottom line: All player control fouls are not necessarily also team control fouls.

Give me an example when a PCF is not TCF?

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Old Mon Feb 12, 2024, 11:01pm
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Give me an example when a PCF is not TCF?

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Old Tue Feb 13, 2024, 11:12am
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Give me an example when a PCF is not TCF?
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Airborne shooter ...
... who has released the ball for a try.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2024, 01:36pm
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... who has released the ball for a try.
Isn't that redundant?

Can you give an example of an Airborne Shooter who has not released the ball? (Hint: The answer is "no".)
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2024, 02:43pm
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Can you give an example of an Airborne Shooter who has not released the ball?
A ball handler becomes airborne (ball comes to rest in the player’s hands) and starts his continuous trying motion. The trying motion includes arm, foot or body movements used by the player when throwing the ball at his basket. All of this before the ball is released on a try. The player becomes an airborne shooter when both feet have left the floor and are off the ground.

Maybe he didn't release the ball because an opponent "clamped down" on his wrist?

Maybe he quite doesn't fit the official definition (ball released) of a NFHS "airborne shooter", but he certainly is airborne, and he certainly is in the act of shooting, thus he's a generic airborne shooter.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2024, 04:56pm
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A ball handler becomes airborne (ball comes to rest in the player’s hands) and starts his continuous trying motion. The trying motion includes arm, foot or body movements used by the player when throwing the ball at his basket. All of this before the ball is released on a try. The player becomes an airborne shooter when both feet have left the floor and are off the ground.
He's a shooter, and he's airborne, but he's not an airborne shooter.

4-1-1:An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try for a goal or has tapped the ball and has not returned to the floor.

Let's just say that he is a shooter that's airborne.
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Old Tue Feb 13, 2024, 10:01pm
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Let's just say that he is a shooter that's airborne.
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