Half Time

[bob jenkins]

The rule says (paraphrased) it's a T if the team delays the start of the second half. It does NOT say "after being notified, delays the start..."

It's like an excess TO -- the official is supposed to notify the team that they have used their last TO, but even if they don't, it's still a T.

I agree we can / should be a bit more flexible on the definition of "full minute" if the team hasn't been notified, but it's still on the team.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The rule says it's a T if the team delays the start of the second half. It does NOT say "after being notified, delays the start...". It's like an excess TO -- the official is supposed to notify the team that they have used their last TO, but even if they don't, it's still a T. I agree we can / should be a bit more flexible on the definition of "full minute" if the team hasn't been notified, but it's still on the team.

Agree that two wrongs (no notification and delay start of second half; or no notification and excess timeout requested and granted) don't make a right.

I would be very embarrassed and my assigner would be very upset if I gave no notification and an excess timeout was requested and granted, but that wouldn't stop me from enforcing the excess timeout technical foul penalty.

On the other hand, if the table/officials didn't notify the team that there was three minutes left in halftime and the start of the second half was delayed, I might be more flexible in regarding enforcing penalties.

But that's just my personal opinion, not that of the NFHS.

[FlasherZ]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The rule says (paraphrased) it's a T if the team delays the start of the second half. It does NOT say "after being notified, delays the start..."

It's like an excess TO -- the official is supposed to notify the team that they have used their last TO, but even if they don't, it's still a T.

I agree we can / should be a bit more flexible on the definition of "full minute" if the team hasn't been notified, but it's still on the team.

I think we're all agreeing to some extent or another. The difference is probably in how we would handle it individually.

Some officials are going to be the super-strict, T-them-up-at-61-seconds types regardless of whether they were warned - the type of police officers who write you a ticket at 1 mph over while you're trying to get your obviously-in-labor wife to the hospital. And others are going to let it go unless it's clearly egregious and obvious there's gamesmanship going on, along with the whole range in the middle.

I tend to be in the latter camp, myself - but everyone is different.

[thumpferee]

If we were to start Ting up teams for this, the HT would never notify the VT

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

If we were to start Ting up teams for this, the HT would never notify the VT

Nope. It's still up to the coach to make sure his team is ready to play at the start of the second half. Not hard to have a manager or a bench player check the clock during halftime.

If the book says it's a T, it's a T. Do I try to give some (general) grace? Absolutely, I'm not a robot. But there's no way I'm going to apologize or feel guilty for following the rules.