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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:42pm
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Half time T

The first half horn sounds, then A1 releases a try for goal that goes in.
The officials wave off the shot.
Player A1 the speaking captain - vehemently questions the call and is sent to the locker room with a warning to let it go.
On the way out of the gym he kicks several chairs out onto the floor inciting the crowd into further negative reactions.

A1 gets his T

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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:52pm
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The first half horn sounds, then A1 releases a try for goal that goes in.
The officials wave off the shot.
Player A1 the speaking captain - vehemently questions the call and is sent to the locker room with a warning to let it go.
On the way out of the gym he kicks several chairs out onto the floor inciting the crowd into further negative reactions.

A1 gets his T

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Since, this occurred after the horn. Start the 2ND half shooting FT's for unsporting behavior.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:55pm
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Since, this occurred after the horn. Start the 2ND half shooting FT's for unsporting behavior.
And, since it was during halftime, A1 is considered bench personnel and therefore it is also an indirect technical on Head Coach A and he can remain seated for the 2nd half...
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In addition the coach will get an indirect technical. The player became bench personal at the half. Coach will lose box for the rest of the game.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 05:54pm
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For NFHS, start the 2nd half with free throws, then the offended team gets the ball at midcourt opposite for a throw in. Arrow remains unchanged.

NCAA, I believe you start the 2nd half with the free throws, then POI is the normal AP throw-in.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 04:24am
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For NFHS, start the 2nd half with free throws, then the offended team gets the ball at midcourt opposite for a throw in. Arrow remains unchanged.
Just for completeness, FIBA is "almost" the same, but the offending team will start the quarter with a team foul. The technical foul counts for the player's five, since during an intermission all team members entitled to play (that is, not fouled out) are considered players (so there's no T charged to the coach).
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 07:31am
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Just for completeness, FIBA is "almost" the same, but the offending team will start the quarter with a team foul. The technical foul counts for the player's five, since during an intermission all team members entitled to play (that is, not fouled out) are considered players (so there's no T charged to the coach).
I believe this is true for Fed as well; except for the part lined out.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 09:51am
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Originally Posted by eg-italy
Just for completeness, FIBA is "almost" the same, but the offending team will start the quarter with a team foul. The technical foul counts for the player's five, since during an intermission all team members entitled to play (that is, not fouled out) are considered players (so
there's no T charged to the coach).

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I believe this is true for Fed as well; except for the part lined out.

For NFHS the team members are bench personnel during intermission and NOT players.

This is a 06-07 Editorial Change:
4-34-1, 2
Clarified that a player is one of five team members who are legally in the game at any given time except intermission and that during an intermission, all team members are bench personnel.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 10:37am
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So, when A8, sitting on the bench, pops off and gets himself a T, does that not count towards his 5? Other than the semantics, I see no difference except that the coach gets an indirect as well.
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So, when A8, sitting on the bench, pops off and gets himself a T, does that not count towards his 5? Other than the semantics, I see no difference except that the coach gets an indirect as well.
I don't know in FED; but in FIBA a T on bench personnel does not count for team fouls nor towards the fifth foul of a substitute; it is charged only to the coach (type B) and counts towards the three T for the coach. A T can be charged directly to the coach for unsporting behavior (type C); two C fouls or three fouls (three B's or two B's and one C) mandate the coach's ejection. However, since during an intermission ("interval of play", in FIBAspeak) all team members entitled to play are players and not bench personnel (4.1.4), a T charged to one of them counts for the five personal fouls and for team fouls in the subsequent period.

Probably just to add confusion among rule sets.
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Old Tue Oct 28, 2008, 12:23pm
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So, when A8, sitting on the bench, pops off and gets himself a T, does that not count towards his 5? Other than the semantics, I see no difference except that the coach gets an indirect as well.
Yes A8 would receive a direct technical and it would count toward his 5 fouls.

The part that I was clarifing is this:
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during an intermission all team members entitled to play (that is, not fouled out) are considered players
They are not considered players, they are bench personnel.
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I agree with you, then. Other than semantics....
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