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Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:52am
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So no one can say what an attempt to stand would entail, if not this? that's problematic. It has to be intended to mean something, does it not? what conduct does it prohibit, if not starting the process to stand? and how do you start the process to stand from prone when possessing a ball, that would not include going to the knees?
logic should count for something here 
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