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Old Sun Feb 14, 2021, 03:15pm
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Don't give a damn about uniform clarifications. Stop having officials adjudicate this kind of silliness.
Uniforms, or equipment?

While, like most, I hate being the fashion police, I don't want my high school game becoming the Wild Wild West, or a the Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.

Want to be a basketball player? Dress the part.

Many rules regarding undershirts, headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, knee pads, elbow pads, compression shorts, tights, hair control devices, and ribbons need to be either much more simplified, or eliminated.

(I like undershirt colors just the way they are now.)

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Old Sun Feb 14, 2021, 05:25pm
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Many rules regarding undershirts, headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, knee pads, elbow pads, compression shorts, tights, hair control devices, and ribbons need to be either much more simplified, or eliminated.
Get rid of beige as a legal equipment color choice.

Hey NFHS, 2008 called and it wants it beige underwrap back.

It's 2021. Underwrap, often used by girls as a headband, now comes in a variety of colors, not just beige (as in the past).

Most team now have underwrap in the same color as the jersey.

Keep equipment colors simple. Black, white, or the predominant color of the jersey.

When was the last time anyone spotted a beige arm sleeve, leg sleeve, headband, wristband, compression shorts, or tights?

If it's irrelevant and out of date, eliminate it. Keep it simple stupid.

(Note: 3M™ patented Coban™ underwrap in 1992 and beige was the only color available at the time.)

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Old Mon Feb 15, 2021, 12:22pm
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Uniforms, or equipment?

While, like most, I hate being the fashion police, I don't want my high school game becoming the Wild Wild West, or a the Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.

If it is not about safety, why do I care what type of headband someone has on their head? If the jersey is the same color and style, their undershirt means nothing to me. If people can have different skin colors, it is really hard to know what is on their arms? There was a time that the NF tried to legislate tattoos on the arm or body and then that went away quickly. But worrying about the color and logo of things the school does not provide is silly. That will not change because people assume there will be all these different styles.

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Old Mon Feb 15, 2021, 01:00pm
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... why do I care what type of headband someone has on their head? If the jersey is the same color and style, their undershirt means nothing to me ... worrying about the color ... of things the school does not provide is silly ...
Agree with you that the NFHS has turned us into mostly unwilling fashion police. The pendulum has swung to far too one side. However I don't want the pendulum to swing so far to the other side that high school basketball looks no different than lower level basketball (recreation, travel, AAU, YMCA, etc.).

We absolutely need some common sense changes that simplify (and possibly eliminate) many of these rules, but these changes must still restrict equipment colors to benefit officials by allowing them to easily identify players on each team during fast paced action.

Easy start. Ignore everything from the waist down (leg sleeves, knee pads, tights, compression shorts), just as we now ignore shorts, socks, and shoes (except for flashing lights).

Headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves? Make it simpler. Black, white, jersey color (no beige), all the same for the team. Want it even simpler? Any color, but all the same for the team.

A stripe on an arm sleeve? Fuhgeddaboudit, the issue is not worth the time, energy, or mental effort.

Logos? Let's not allow players to be become billboards. Unless we change our minds and want to allow this to raise money for interscholastic sports (à la WNBA, international, etc.).

Undershirts? When I'm watching for rebounding action contact by multiple players, I don't want opponents to have the same color undershirts, and I want undershirts to match the jerseys (treated as an extension of the jersey). I have various undershirt colors in preseason scrimmages every year. They can be slightly distracting. I don't want that in real games.

I like undershirt color rules just the way they are now, strict (only two choices, white, or jersey color), but simple to understand, and simple to enforce (if we all did it, we can be our own worst enemies, if 95% of us strictly enforced this in the first week and a half in December, the problem would go away, like herd immunity).
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2021, 02:31pm
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I like undershirt color rules just the way they are now, strict (only two choices), but simple to understand, and simple to enforce (if we all did it, we can be our own worst enemies, if 95% of us strictly enforced this in the first week and a half in December, the problem would go away, like herd immunity).
What am I missing? What are the two choices???
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:09pm
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What am I missing? What are the two choices???
I apologize for being so "loose" with my language (fixed it).

White, or road jersey color.

Two choices for most individual teams (unless they have multiple road jerseys (remember this is only high school)).

Reminded me that changing "light color" to "white" for the home team, and getting rid of all references to "school color", were great NHFS fashion police rule changes.

At least they've tried to simplify some of these rules, but unfortunately it was one step forward, one step backyard.

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I apologize for being so "loose" with my language (fixed it).

White, or road jersey color.

Two choices for most individual teams (unless they have multiple road jerseys (remember this is only high school)).
I really only see that as one option since the team's home/away status dictates which one they can wear if they wear one.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2021, 08:19am
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I really only see that as one option since the team's home/away status dictates which one they can wear if they wear one.
Get it. Like I said, "strict".
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