Rule Change Proposals

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Well written.

I’d rather get rid of the seatbelt rule than have any of those changes, however.

Just for counterbalance, and because you've flogged this horse several times over the past couple of days -- I'm in favor of keeping the seatbelt rule.

[BillyMac]

Undershirts.

Do what you will with other "equipment" colors, but keep the undershirt rule the same as it currently is.

While the present undershirt rule is the strictest of all fashion rules (only two choices: white, or jersey color), it's also the simplest for everyone (officials, coaches, players, parents who purchase undershirts) to understand, and the simplest to adjudicate.

When I'm watching for rebounding action contact, I don't want opponents to have the same color undershirts, and I want undershirts (if worn) to match the jerseys. I have various undershirt colors in scrimmages every year. They can be slightly distracting. I don't want that in real games.

Rules that restrict equipment colors benefit officials by allowing them to easily identify players on each team during fast paced action.

Glad the NFHS got rid of the "school color" option a few years ago.

[BillyMac]

Delaying the return to inbounds on a throwin.

I twice offered this to the NFHS as a formal proposal (with the exact same rationale), this past year it made it's way all the way to the rules committee for final consideration. Didn't make it past committee. Dead end. Maybe if we just keep hammering away. Hopefully third time will be the charm. Good luck.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

While the present undershirt rule is the strictest of all fashion rules (only two choices: white, or jersey color)...

Did I miss something somewhere?? I thought there was no choice - the only option was “similar to the jersey color”. If a kid has a black jersey, white ain’t gonna cut it in my book.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by WhistlesAndStripes

Did I miss something somewhere?? I thought there was no choice - the only option was “similar to the jersey color”. If a kid has a black jersey, white ain’t gonna cut it in my book.

Two choices as the kid is packing his bag for the game, or preparing to dress for the game: White undershirt for a home game. Jersey color undershirt for a road game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I’d rather get rid of the seatbelt rule than have any of those changes, however.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'm in favor of keeping the seatbelt rule.

In theory, I like the "seatbelt rule". My problem with the rule is when head coaches have to be "reminded" to not stand and coach. It adds an extra layer of possible negative interaction between the officials and the head coach, a relationship that has already been "strained". I only favor getting rid of the "seatbelt rule" because it would also get rid of this "double barreled" negative interaction.

Give the opponents two free throws, add the technical foul to the coaches total, and play on, he's been punished enough.

[Nevadaref]

All of Camron’s rule change proposals make sense, which means that the NFHS won’t adopt any of them.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

All of Camron’s rule change proposals make sense, which means that the NFHS won’t adopt any of them.

My nomination for "Post O' The Week".

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

All of Camron’s rule change proposals make sense, which means that the NFHS won’t adopt any of them.

Is there a law that says that the NFHS shall only adopt nonsensical rules proposals ?

[JRutledge]

Don't give a damn about uniform clarifications. Stop having officials adjudicate this kind of silliness.

The other rules do not move me, but they are OK. They can change definitions and still not define the actions properly in the Casebook or interpretation.

And keep the seatbelt rule, gets them to think about why that took place.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Don't give a damn about uniform clarifications. Stop having officials adjudicate this kind of silliness.

Uniforms, or equipment?

While, like most, I hate being the fashion police, I don't want my high school game becoming the Wild Wild West, or a the Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.

Want to be a basketball player? Dress the part.

Many rules regarding undershirts, headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, knee pads, elbow pads, compression shorts, tights, hair control devices, and ribbons need to be either much more simplified, or eliminated.

(I like undershirt colors just the way they are now.)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Many rules regarding undershirts, headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, knee pads, elbow pads, compression shorts, tights, hair control devices, and ribbons need to be either much more simplified, or eliminated.

Get rid of beige as a legal equipment color choice.

Hey NFHS, 2008 called and it wants it beige underwrap back.

It's 2021. Underwrap, often used by girls as a headband, now comes in a variety of colors, not just beige (as in the past).

Most team now have underwrap in the same color as the jersey.

Keep equipment colors simple. Black, white, or the predominant color of the jersey.

When was the last time anyone spotted a beige arm sleeve, leg sleeve, headband, wristband, compression shorts, or tights?

If it's irrelevant and out of date, eliminate it. Keep it simple stupid.

(Note: 3M™ patented Coban™ underwrap in 1992 and beige was the only color available at the time.)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Uniforms, or equipment?

While, like most, I hate being the fashion police, I don't want my high school game becoming the Wild Wild West, or a the Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.

If it is not about safety, why do I care what type of headband someone has on their head? If the jersey is the same color and style, their undershirt means nothing to me. If people can have different skin colors, it is really hard to know what is on their arms? There was a time that the NF tried to legislate tattoos on the arm or body and then that went away quickly. But worrying about the color and logo of things the school does not provide is silly. That will not change because people assume there will be all these different styles.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Don't give a damn about uniform clarifications. Stop having officials adjudicate this kind of silliness.

The other rules do not move me, but they are OK. They can change definitions and still not define the actions properly in the Casebook or interpretation.

And keep the seatbelt rule, gets them to think about why that took place.

Peace

The point of my proposal, knowing they're not getting rid of the uniform stuff, was not a clarification but an actual change to loosen the restrictions and make it both less confusing and, as an added benefit, less that we have to worry about since more options would be legal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

... an actual change to loosen the restrictions and make it both less confusing and, as an added benefit, less that we have to worry about since more options would be legal.

Agree. This is utterly ridiculous:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...r7jfevVSE/edit