Drive & Push-Off

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I don't think you can no-call this with that much use of the arm by the offensive player. He initiates the contact by putting his arm up, and then he extends his arm to create separation.

Good points.

[Kansas Ref]

1. I can see the dribbler's arm raised but is was "within his cylinder" when he came to a pull up motion stopping motion; however, I did not observe any 'extension' of said arm into the torso of defender. Couple these observations with the embellishment/faking of the defender being thrown off balance faking action--in summary I have 'nothing' here. Given the seniority and experience level of the writers on this forum I would hasten to say that all of you have seen this type of play in your officiating history. Play on players!

2. I can understand the chagrin of folks who want to see a PC here, but I have nothing here at the high school level of reffing a game--albeit NCAA and NBA may interps may yield a varying adjudication.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

... I did not observe any 'extension' of said arm into the torso of defender ...

Look again, fifteen seconds in, and twenty-six seconds in (both are endline views).

He extends his arm bar.

While there definitely is "extension", the question is is there enough "extension" to create an illegal advantage?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

1. I can see the dribbler's arm raised but is was "within his cylinder" when he came to a pull up motion stopping motion; however, I did not observe any 'extension' of said arm into the torso of defender. Couple these observations with the embellishment/faking of the defender being thrown off balance faking action--in summary I have 'nothing' here. Given the seniority and experience level of the writers on this forum I would hasten to say that all of you have seen this type of play in your officiating history. Play on players!

2. I can understand the chagrin of folks who want to see a PC here, but I have nothing here at the high school level of reffing a game--albeit NCAA and NBA may interps may yield a varying adjudication.

I don't want to see anything. I just look at video and describe what I see. I have an offensive foul in my high school and NCAA games, and have made this call at both levels.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

1. I can see the dribbler's arm raised but is was "within his cylinder" when he came to a pull up motion stopping motion; however, I did not observe any 'extension' of said arm into the torso of defender. Couple these observations with the embellishment/faking of the defender being thrown off balance faking action--in summary I have 'nothing' here. Given the seniority and experience level of the writers on this forum I would hasten to say that all of you have seen this type of play in your officiating history. Play on players!

2. I can understand the chagrin of folks who want to see a PC here, but I have nothing here at the high school level of reffing a game--albeit NCAA and NBA may interps may yield a varying adjudication.

I am calling this at every level I work. High school and college.

Peace

[LRZ]

I am calling this at every level I work. High school and below.

[rbruno]

Good "patient whistle by the "C" i believe (lead was moving ballside as the play developed). Could have been trouble is the lead decided to make a call.