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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 04:01pm
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A1 goes for rebound w/ B1. A1 is behind B1 and both are close to, and facing away from the rim. Ball is over thier heads, and both grip it at about the same time. They struggle for a second or two w/ the ball overhead then B1, the player in front, pulls the ball down so that A1 is now in contact with him from the back. Official whistles "Over the Back" (push in my book). Aside from the description, is this the right call?
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 04:10pm
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A1 goes for rebound w/ B1. A1 is behind B1 and both are close to, and facing away from the rim. Ball is over thier heads, and both grip it at about the same time. They struggle for a second or two w/ the ball overhead then B1, the player in front, pulls the ball down so that A1 is now in contact with him from the back. Official whistles "Over the Back" (push in my book). Aside from the description, is this the right call?
Based solely on your description of the play, that would be a held ball.

However, the official may have seen something entirely different than what you saw and therefore called a push.
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 04:15pm
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I really hope the official didn't call "over the back". The way the OP reads it should have been a held ball.
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 04:17pm
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Based on what you wrote, I'm going with a held ball here, but you never know what the other guy might have seen.
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 04:22pm
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"Over the back". I always love when a coach yells that. I just go up to the coach and say, "show me the hand and arm signal for 'over the back.'"

Same thing with 'moving screen'.
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 04:29pm
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Sometimes a quicker whistle in such situations can prevent problems, and a held ball is usually better than someone being assessed a foul. The double whistle is always exciting when one calls a jump and another calls an 'over the back' (push) call. Need to be mentally prepared for that. I know it all happens fast, that's why it's good to read about situations like this one, in advance of it happening.
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 05:22pm
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"Over the back". I always love when a coach yells that. I just go up to the coach and say, "show me the hand and arm signal for 'over the back.'"

Same thing with 'moving screen'.
The "over the back" and "moving screen" signals are the same as the one for a "reach".
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 07:56pm
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"Over the back". I always love when a coach yells that. I just go up to the coach and say, "show me the hand and arm signal for 'over the back.'"

Same thing with 'moving screen'.
The signal for "over the back" is what I call the creeping death foul. Make the signal by putting both hands up over your head then pretend you're diving with just your arms.
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