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[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

The NFHS adopted the "extended arm with fist" signal for a TCF which was not PCF the same year that Hank Zaborniak, Jr. (of the OhioHSAA) became the Chairman of the NFHS Rules Committee, which if my memory serves me correctly was the 2012-13 School Year.

The PCF signal of the "hand on the back of the head" informed the Scorer that the Fouler would be charged but no FTs would be awarded . The "extended arm with fist" signal was adopted to inform the Scorer that the Fouler would be charged but no FTs would be awarded despite the PF not being a PCF.

Many of you have heard me use the old commercial: "When E.F. Hutton speaks, people listen!" many time before. With that in mind, one of the things that Hank did for the start of the 2012-13 School Year was to inform all Basketball Officials would use the "hand on the back of the head" signal for all TCFs because Scorers would not understand the change in the signalling mechanic, !

I let Hank know that making that change did not set a good example to the other States, and that Mark, Jr., and I could not in good conscious not use the TCF signal as adopted by the NFHS. Needless to say, I am confident that Mark, Jr., and I were the only two OhioHSAA Basketball Officials that have never followed Hank's directive. That said, Mark, Jr. and I were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXMHaYoc9J8

That said, since the NFHS has changed its Signal Chart, then Mark, Jr., will follow that Signal Chart if sports are played this year.

MTD, Sr.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The NFHS adopted the "extended arm with fist" signal for a TCF which was not PCF the same year that Hank Zaborniak, Jr. (of the OhioHSAA) became the Chairman of the NFHS Rules Committee, which if my memory serves me correctly was the 2012-13 School Year.

The PCF signal of the "hand on the back of the head" informed the Scorer that the Fouler would be charged but no FTs would be awarded . The "extended arm with fist" signal was adopted to inform the Scorer that the Fouler would be charged but no FTs would be awarded despite the PF not being a PCF.

Many of you have heard me use the old commercial: "When E.F. Hutton speaks, people listen!" many time before. With that in mind, one of the things that Hank did for the start of the 2012-13 School Year was to inform all Basketball Officials would use the "hand on the back of the head" signal for all TCFs because Scorers would not understand the change in the signalling mechanic, !

I let Hank know that making that change did not set a good example to the other States, and that Mark, Jr., and I could not in good conscious not use the TCF signal as adopted by the NFHS. Needless to say, I am confident that Mark, Jr., and I were the only two OhioHSAA Basketball Officials that have never followed Hank's directive. That said, Mark, Jr. and I were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXMHaYoc9J8

That said, since the NFHS has changed its Signal Chart, then Mark, Jr., will follow that Signal Chart if sports are played this year.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, I'm looking at a 2006-07 manual that shows the extended arm/fist for a TCF. Anyway, if HZ was the Chairman of the NFHS Rules Committee, and that committee adopted the TCF signal, why would Hank then turn around and tell all officials to use the PCF signal instead? That doesn't make any sense. I believe it was our current director of basketball officials who made that decision at an OHSAA rules interpreters meeting that I attended. FWIW, I thought it was a logical decision. As it now turns out, perhaps that decision had merit. Additionally, do you really think other states actually cared about what kind of example Ohio was setting by going against the NFHS mechanic for TCF's? Many states make adjustments to the NFHS rules and mechanics. Finally, I'm somewhat surprised that your good "conscience" would advise you not to go along with the directive and be consistent with the other 99.999% of Ohio basketball officials. THAT, is not setting a good example.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Mark, I'm looking at a 2006-07 manual that shows the extended arm/fist for a TCF. Anyway, if HZ was the Chairman of the NFHS Rules Committee, and that committee adopted the TCF signal, why would Hank then turn around and tell all officials to use the PCF signal instead? That doesn't make any sense. I believe it was our current director of basketball officials who made that decision at an OHSAA rules interpreters meeting that I attended. FWIW, I thought it was a logical decision. As it now turns out, perhaps that decision had merit. Additionally, do you really think other states actually cared about what kind of example Ohio was setting by going against the NFHS mechanic for TCF's? Many states make adjustments to the NFHS rules and mechanics. Finally, I'm somewhat surprised that your good "conscience" would advise you not to go along with the directive and be consistent with the other 99.999% of Ohio basketball officials. THAT, is not setting a good example.

BillyU2:

1) You are correct with regard to the 2005-07 NFHS Officials manual.

2) I climbed up into "The Attic" and checked my files and Hank became the NFHS Rules Committee Chairman in 2010-11 and not 2012-13; I do not know why I thought it was 2012-13 but I am getting senile in my old age, .

3a) Everything is correct as I stated except that it took place two years earlier and Denny Morris (OhioHSAA Director of Basketball Officials) did not make the change, and do not get me started on Denny because he has two strikes against him with me credibility wise.

3b) I have known Hank since the late 1980s.

3c) I told Hank that the NFHS Officials Manual has had two different signals for over five years and I told him that there were two reasons that I did not think it was a good decision to have the OhioHSAA use an unapproved signal: He was the Chairman of the NFHS Rules Committee; and ii) His reasoning for making the change (the Scorer not understanding the two different signals, especially since the signal had been in use for five years).

3d) I am positive that I was one of only two basketball officials (not counting Junior) in Ohio that could get away with not conforming with his mandated signal change.

3e) I also told Hank that if he wanted to use the same signal for all TCFs and he wanted it to be the "hand behind the head" signal, I had no problem with that but the reason should not be the "Scorer not understanding the signal reason but that it should be one signal for both types TCFs.

You can always email me at my OhioHSAA Officials Directory email address.

MTD, Sr.