Camps this Offseason

[Raymond]

Staffs are going to be reduced. Also there's talk of rolling back game fees because of financial strains on the colleges and universities.

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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Staffs are going to be reduced. Also there's talk of rolling back game fees because of financial strains on the colleges and universities.

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Not to mention the possibility that schools will cut basketball altogether.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Staffs are going to be reduced. Also there's talk of rolling back game fees because of financial strains on the colleges and universities.

Do you mean D1 staffs? Or staffs in general?

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Do you mean D1 staffs? Or staffs in general?



Peace

I know my D1 supervisor is dropping more than he'll hire, that's if he hires anybody. I'll probably be on the cut list because of my age and recent injury.

I have my thoughts on what's going to go on but I don't want to get into all the politics.

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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Staffs are going to be reduced. Also there's talk of rolling back game fees because of financial strains on the colleges and universities.

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Officials should only be okay with that if the assignors/conference supervisors, university athletic directors, and coaches all take the same pay cut.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Officials should only be okay with that if the assignors/conference supervisors, university athletic directors, and coaches all take the same pay cut.

I agree in principle, but it’s a principle we don’t have the leverage to stand on. Whether we like to admit it or not, the price point for our service is pretty low.

That said, I don’t see the D3/D2 arena with much wiggle room. Those game fees coupled with the travel and time commitments are already rock bottom. If you lower them any more you might retain the D1 dreamers but you’ll lose your veterans. And as NASO data readily show, there aren’t many dreamers left coming up through the HS level to replace them.


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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I agree in principle, but it’s a principle we don’t have the leverage to stand on. Whether we like to admit it or not, the price point for our service is pretty low.

That said, I don’t see the D3/D2 arena with much wiggle room. Those game fees coupled with the travel and time commitments are already rock bottom. If you lower them any more you might retain the D1 dreamers but you’ll lose your veterans. And as NASO data readily show, there aren’t many dreamers left coming up through the HS level to replace them.


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I disagree. There will always be enough officials who will do whatever it takes to call themselves "college officials" and get as many games as possible. There's nothing wrong with that necessarily, but it does mean that a decrease in game fees likely isn't going to affect the makeup of an overall staff for a particular league.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I disagree. There will always be enough officials who will do whatever it takes to call themselves "college officials" and get as many games as possible. There's nothing wrong with that necessarily, but it does mean that a decrease in game fees likely isn't going to affect the makeup of an overall staff for a particular league.

There are certainly fewer slots. And working a single college game does not make you a college official. Working multiple weekends and likely multiple conferences really makes you a college official. But again this is very much subjected to where you are in the country. Some areas like my area has several schools all over the place at different levels. You might live in an area where you only have a D2 conference and it is spread out all over the place.

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There are certainly fewer slots. And working a single college game does not make you a college official. Working multiple weekends and likely multiple conferences really makes you a college official. But again this is very much subjected to where you are in the country. Some areas like my area has several schools all over the place at different levels. You might live in an area where you only have a D2 conference and it is spread out all over the place.

Peace

Not really interested in the definition of a college official.

My point was that there is plenty of supply for college basketball and lower demand. A decrease in game fees is unlikely to change that, not unless you're talking getting down close to HS fees.

Whereas in high school it's not uncommon for demand to be greater than supply. Depending on your geographic area, of course.

[Player989random]

So far all of my camps have been cancelled, except for one in Texas which was rescheduled to late June. That ticked me off, because D1 extended the dead period to July, and DII can only recruit on-campus. I'm not so naive to believe that some college coaches won't be there, but I have friends who coach AAU on the East Coast, and they've told me they've cancelled all events for their players until July/August. This is clearly so the assignor can collect a check, and the people hosting the tournament don't have to issue a refund.

I also have another assignor who keeps sending us emails saying that "Our camps will be rescheduled to the late summer/early fall." Sure.

Originally Posted by Raymond

Staffs are going to be reduced. Also there's talk of rolling back game fees because of financial strains on the colleges and universities.

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I do college soccer, and one of the leagues sent our assignor an email requesting that we hold off on bumping up our pay, and it included the details for all sports in that conference. It totals to an extra $20 a game; not per person, but per game. Basketball was adding an additional $5 per person, and they're asking for that to be suspended. Tough times.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Player989random

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I also have another assignor who keeps sending us emails saying that "Our camps will be rescheduled to the late summer/early fall." Sure.





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I'm pretty sure we're both receiving that email from the same person.

But since I'm coming off a season where I injured my knee and had surgery and lost about 80-90% of my season, I'm looking forward to opportunities to get on the court....assuming that I want to get on the court in a Covid-19 environment.



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[SC Official]

No surprise that assigners want you to believe they will have camp later this summer. The damage to their pocketbooks should they not get to have camp would be significant.