Clock and Lights don't match up. Buzzer Beater.

[tw1ns]

Iowa HS Substate game. .6 secs left on clock. Is it physically possible to catch the ball in the air, return to floor and shoot it with .6 on the clock. I have watched this many times, many angles, and the buzzer sounds after he releases, the time on the clock shows zero and i believe it is in his hand, BUT, the light on the backboard isn't on....this is a no win for the official having to make this call. Either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9juVI9eXWQ
here are the coaches comments after the game from local tv station
https://kwwl.com/2020/03/03/west-boy...ubstate-final/

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tw1ns

Iowa HS Substate game. .6 secs left on clock. Is it physically possible to catch the ball in the air, return to floor and shoot it with .6 on the clock. I have watched this many times, many angles, and the buzzer sounds after he releases, the time on the clock shows zero and i believe it is in his hand, BUT, the light on the backboard isn't on....this is a no win for the official having to make this call. Either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9juVI9eXWQ
here are the coaches comments after the game from local tv station
https://kwwl.com/2020/03/03/west-boy...ubstate-final/

By rule there is nothing preventing a catch and shoot with 0.6 on the clock. If he beat the LED lights, then he is good, barring an obvious timing error. If there is not a light, the sounding of the horn is controlling for NFHS games. Zero showing on the clock has no meaning in contests without video review.

[Nevadaref]

You are correct that the numbers on the clock do not mesh with the LED lights on the backboard and the horn.

Your first link shows a video from the side of the court which clearly shows the ball in flight prior to the red lights coming on and the horn sounding. The quality is not sharp enough to show the numbers on the clock though, so this one can’t inform us if the clock started properly on the catch.

However, from the video posted along with the news broadcast story in your second link, I was able to determine three things as the game clock on the side of the arena is clearly visible above the players involved in the try: (1.) the clock started properly when the inbounds player caught the ball. I was able to freeze the video with the player still coming down, the ball in his hands, and 0.5 on the clock. (2.) the ball is still in his hands when this clock reaches 0.0 as I was again able to pause the video at such a frame after he elevated to try for goal. (3.) the horn sounds after the ball is released on the video and I cannot see the LED lights on the backboard as they are out of the picture from this angle.

This play is SUPER close! Without video review it is not possible to know with certainty, but the losing team certainly did not get screwed. Nothing egregious here.

With video review, this has to ruled a good 3-point basket as the first video shows no timing error occurred and the second confirms that the release preceded the light coming on. It is unfortunate that the numbers on the clock don’t mesh with the lights and horn.

[tw1ns]

I do know this, the official that made the call is a quality veteran and will be working a State Final in the next few days for the girls tourney . The losing is school is petitioning the IAHSAA for a video review of the play trying to get their team in the tourney. I don't think they will have much luck!

[Matt S.]

The state will undoubtedly reprimand the coach for making those comments. There's a way to express displeasure - that wasn't it.

[Camron Rust]

It seems to me that the LED lights malfunctioned. The clock was at 0.0 and the horn was sounding well before the lights came on. That isn't proper function. The ball was still on the hand when the clock read 0.0 and the horn sounded but the backboard lights were not on.

Going by the lights, the shot would be good. However, going by the horn and/or the clock, the shot would not be good. There is no right answer on this one as some part of the equipment messed up, not the officials.

[Freddy]

2-12-7, "If a red/LED light is used, the light is the official expiration of playing time."
So, is it our responsibility to confirm what some perceive to be an equipment malfunction? Or do we "call it by the light", and "call it by the horn" if no light, then let others sort it out later whether or not the system wasn't was not right? Does "clock malfunctioned" clause in 5-10-2 give us the task of ruling according to whatever technical knowledge we can bring to bear on the situation for which we have no video review?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Freddy

2-12-7, "If a red/LED light is used, the light is the official expiration of playing time."
So, is it our responsibility to confirm what some perceive to be an equipment malfunction? Or do we "call it by the light", and "call it by the horn" if no light, then let others sort it out later whether or not the system wasn't was not right? Does "clock malfunctioned" clause in 5-10-2 give us the task of ruling according to whatever technical knowledge we can bring to bear on the situation for which we have no video review?

Call it by the light, unless it's obvious on the court that the light was "late" / malfunctioning -- and, based on the descriptions in this thread I don't think its the case (I didn't watch the video)

[JRutledge]

I want to know what "knowing who the officials were" has to do with anything? I cannot speak for them, but in our state the host school always knows who the officials are before the contests and if that means almost nothing. And there are sites in my state that self-report our assignments. So anyone can know if you do enough research.

Peace