Buzzer Beater. Or Not?

[paulsonj72]

From another board. In a Minnesota Subsection semi final tonight a game ended on a buzzer beating shot. But did he get it off in time? I have no ties to either school and frankly want an officials opinion.

WORTHINGTON MN BB ending - YouTube

[Rich]

I do not think, based on just this video, that it was released in time.

I also wonder why there are 2 Cs, no L, and a T. And why did the C who quickly ran down to the lead position bang it home? Hell, it looks like ALL THREE of them count the bucket and the one guy who should've sold the hell out of it gave a weak little "basket counts" signal as he's tiptoeing off the court.

And then the one official stays way too long and the other two leave him on the court by himself.

Another case of stellar late-game officiating.

[deecee]

No good based on this video. buzzer sounds the ball is released wave it off.

[letemplay]

2 guys leave their buddy hangin

[twocentsworth]

This basket was NO GOOD on each of the three times I watched the video (if I watch it thirty more times I still won't be able to figure out what the officials were doing before, during, or after the shot.......).

[rockyroad]

Have to agree with the others so far. Did not get the shot off in time. And I have the same questions as Rich...plus one more: is Minn. one of those states that does not use 3 man crews until a certain point in the playoffs? Anyone know?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This basket was NO GOOD on each of the three times I watched the video (if I watch it thirty more times I still won't be able to figure out what the officials were doing before, during, or after the shot.......).

They are officiating a playoff game duh!

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Rich

And then the one official stays way too long and the other two leave him on the court by himself.

I guess the guy who stayed too long likes to get yelled at. Why even address the coach after that anyway? You made the call, leave.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I guess the guy who stayed too long likes to get yelled at. Why even address the coach after that anyway? You made the call, leave.

If you're going to gather with your partners to discuss the final shot, I don't see how a brief explanation to the coach hurts: "I heard the buzzer after the shot was released, Coach." Or, had it gone the other way, "The ball was still in his hands when the buzzer started, Coach."

I think just bolting off the floor when a coach is looking for an explanation sends the wrong message. What's wrong with keeping it brief, stating what happened, then getting off?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bainsey

If you're going to gather with your partners to discuss the final shot, I don't see how a brief explanation to the coach hurts: "I heard the buzzer after the shot was released, Coach." Or, had it gone the other way, "The ball was still in his hands when the buzzer started, Coach."

I think just bolting off the floor when a coach is looking for an explanation sends the wrong message. What's wrong with keeping it brief, stating what happened, then getting off?

In this situation there was only one outcome that required staying on the floor: waving off the shot. If it's no good this game would've gone to OT. Why would I need to explain to the coach what I saw/heard if I scored the goal? That's going to be obvious and all being out there does is put me and the crew in harm's way.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

If you're going to gather with your partners to discuss the final shot, I don't see how a brief explanation to the coach hurts: "I heard the buzzer after the shot was released, Coach." Or, had it gone the other way, "The ball was still in his hands when the buzzer started, Coach."

I think just bolting off the floor when a coach is looking for an explanation sends the wrong message. What's wrong with keeping it brief, stating what happened, then getting off?

First, I feel pretty confident in saying the shot was no good.

Second, what possible good can come from talking to the coach at this point? What new information can you give to the coach that is going to clarify the situation for him? The coach is going to know what your judgement is by virtue of you counting or waving off the basket.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by APG

Second, what possible good can come from talking to the coach at this point? What new information can you give to the coach that is going to clarify the situation for him? The coach is going to know what your judgement is by virtue of you counting or waving off the basket.

I simply believe it's a matter of common courtesy. Assuming the coach hasn't been a jerk or uncivil in this game, I have no problem with a brief word, should he request one (and he probably will). I also don't like the message sent when we high-tail it off the court after any game (unless our safety is in danger), particularly in a situation such as this, where a partner conference was necessary. And bear in mind, you will likely run into that coach again.

JMF mentioned "harms way." Perhaps I just don't see enough harm in my little corner to be concerned about that. If there's a higher chance of danger in your part of Rome, I can certainly see that point.