NCAA Shot Clock Violation Question

[bucky]

I'd like to see that be a rule. If the defense gains control during a shot clock violation, then play on. Get rid of the game disruption.

Ex. Offense shoots, shot clock signals, airball shot is caught by defense. = play on.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

I'd like to see that be a rule. If the defense gains control during a shot clock violation, then play on. Get rid of the game disruption.

Ex. Offense shoots, shot clock signals, airball shot is caught by defense. = play on.

I saw a game this week with time running out in the game where the winning team chose, instead of not shooting and letting the shot clock expire, to toss the ball to the other team. The other team was holding the ball for 1-2 seconds before the shot clock expired. They still blew the whistle and gave them the ball on a throwin. The other team already had the ball. Why not let that one go!?@??

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I saw a game this week with time running out in the game where the winning team chose, instead of not shooting and letting the shot clock expire, to toss the ball to the other team. The other team was holding the ball for 1-2 seconds before the shot clock expired. They still blew the whistle and gave them the ball on a throwin. The other team already had the ball. Why not let that one go!?@??

That should not have been a whistle. Once B gets the ball the shot lock should reset

[bob jenkins]

Play similar to OP (as described) happens with 13.x to go in Loyola - Northern IA game. Officials correctly called the violation, then went to the monitor to put 14.6 on the clock.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Play similar to OP (as described) happens with 13.x to go in Loyola - Northern IA game. Officials correctly called the violation, then went to the monitor to put 14.6 on the clock.

Query: when does the violation occur? Is at the expiration of the shot clock? Or, if a shot is in the air, is it when it is apparent the ball will not hit the rim?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Query: when does the violation occur? Is at the expiration of the shot clock? Or, if a shot is in the air, is it when it is apparent the ball will not hit the rim?

By rule we can put the game clock at the exact time the shot clock expired.

Possession starts at 44.6, game clock at 14.6 if violation is whistled.

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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Query: when does the violation occur? Is at the expiration of the shot clock? Or, if a shot is in the air, is it when it is apparent the ball will not hit the rim?

In NCAAW, it's the time the whistle blows. Theer's some case play on this -- I think back in either the violations section or in the replay section.

In this NCAAM game, replays showed that the time as the ball passed below the level of the rim was 14.6

[JRutledge]

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Missed call.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Missed call.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by bucky

I'd like to see that be a rule. If the defense gains control during a shot clock violation, then play on. Get rid of the game disruption.

Ex. Offense shoots, shot clock signals, airball shot is caught by defense. = play on.

The only way that change would affect strategy is that sometimes that team would prefer a throw-in with the clock stopped. And of course sometimes they'd prefer not.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

The only way that change would affect strategy is that sometimes that team would prefer a throw-in with the clock stopped. And of course sometimes they'd prefer not.

For sure, good point. I was trying to think of other strategic reasons too. I can see a defense getting the ball and immediately being trapped by the new "defense". In that case, the violation would have benefited the new offense and penalized the shooting team. However, I prefer that there is no game disruption over those other rare situations. Lesser of two evils I guess, plus my preferences are also irrelevant.

[bucky]

So, just saw another case of this. With 10:38 to go in the Ohio State/Iowa game, there is an Ohio State shot attempt that is deflected high in the air. An Iowa player jumps, secures control of the ball in the air and lands. The shot clock horn sounds right about when the Iowa player touches the floor. Play continued for a split second and then Wymer blew his whistle indicating a shot clock violation. Here is a case where it would be nice, even if a violation, to ignore it. Also, not sure why Wymer called it a hair late.

Video would be nice but only if it is easy.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bucky

So, just saw another case of this. With 10:38 to go in the Ohio State/Iowa game, there is an Ohio State shot attempt that is deflected high in the air. An Iowa player jumps, secures control of the ball in the air and lands. The shot clock horn sounds right about when the Iowa player touches the floor. Play continued for a split second and then Wymer blew his whistle indicating a shot clock violation. Here is a case where it would be nice, even if a violation, to ignore it. Also, not sure why Wymer called it a hair late.

Video would be nice but only if it is easy.

By rule, that play should not have been stopped as the Iowa player secured control of the ball prior to the shot clock horn sounding.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

By rule, that play should not have been stopped as the Iowa player secured control of the ball prior to the shot clock horn sounding.

Exactly! It was very strange to see someone of that caliber (Wymer) make that call. And he did it as if he "caught" something by rule and was ensuring doing things the correct way.