NCAA-W: Shot clock violation or Flagrant 1?

[jeschmit]

Here's the sitch:

NCAA-W. Team A has the ball with 5 seconds on the shot clock. A shot goes up and misses the rim. The shot clock operator mistakenly resets the shot clock on the shot. Team A then gets an offensive rebound.

Unfortunately, the three officials failed to notice that the shot clock was reset, and after A got the rebound, A-1 was fouled by B-1 in the act of shooting. The contact was deemed enough to make it a Flagrant 1 foul. At the time the foul was called, 23 seconds was showing on the shot clock.

The officials get together and realize that there undoubtedly should have been a shot clock violation on Team A prior to the Flagrant 1 foul being called.

What should the crew have done? The way I see it there are two options: 1) Ignore the shot clock violation and award Team A two shots and the ball for the Flagrant 1 foul, or 2) ignore the Flagrant 1 foul and award Team B the ball due to the shot clock violation (with the proper time added to the game clock).

Also, just for the sake of argument... what if it was just a common foul committed by Team B, and not a Flagrant 1 foul? Would the ruling change?

[deecee]

You NEVER ignore any FLAGRANT, or INTENTIONAL or TECHNICAL fouls.

You DONT have 2 options. What if a punch was thrown and a fight broke out? Ignore that?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

Here's the sitch:

NCAA-W. Team A has the ball with 5 seconds on the shot clock. A shot goes up and misses the rim. The shot clock operator mistakenly resets the shot clock on the shot. Team A then gets an offensive rebound.

Unfortunately, the three officials failed to notice that the shot clock was reset, and after A got the rebound, A-1 was fouled by B-1 in the act of shooting. The contact was deemed enough to make it a Flagrant 1 foul. At the time the foul was called, 23 seconds was showing on the shot clock.

The officials get together and realize that there undoubtedly should have been a shot clock violation on Team A prior to the Flagrant 1 foul being called.

What should the crew have done? The way I see it there are two options: 1) Ignore the shot clock violation and award Team A two shots and the ball for the Flagrant 1 foul, or 2) ignore the Flagrant 1 foul and award Team B the ball due to the shot clock violation (with the proper time added to the game clock).

Also, just for the sake of argument... what if it was just a common foul committed by Team B, and not a Flagrant 1 foul? Would the ruling change?

The flagrant 1 foul must be penalized. Had it been merely a common foul, it would be canceled.

NCAA 2-13-2c(2)

Determine whether the shot clock malfunctioned or a timing mistake
occurred in failing to properly start, stop, set or reset the shot clock. The
malfunction or mistake may only be corrected in the shot clock period in
which it occurred. Any activity after the mistake or malfunction has been
committed and until it has been rectified shall be canceled, excluding a

flagrant 1 or 2 personal foul or any technical foul.

[BayStateRef]

Nevada's citation is for games with replay/television equipment and gives officials the authority to check the monitor for a shot clock mistake.

If there is no replay equipment, the prevailing rule is 5-11-4, which also forbids canceling any flagrant or technical foul.

A.R. 153 covers the play if it is a common foul: cancel the foul, put time back on the clock and give Team B the ball for the shot clock violation.

[jeschmit]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The flagrant 1 foul must be penalized. Had it been merely a common foul, it would be canceled.

NCAA 2-13-2c(2)

Determine whether the shot clock malfunctioned or a timing mistake
occurred in failing to properly start, stop, set or reset the shot clock. The
malfunction or mistake may only be corrected in the shot clock period in
which it occurred. Any activity after the mistake or malfunction has been
committed and until it has been rectified shall be canceled, excluding a

flagrant 1 or 2 personal foul or any technical foul.

Thanks Nevada... this is what we ended up going with, although the crew wasn't 100% sure on this one. I couldn't find the citation though.

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Nevada's citation is for games with replay/television equipment and gives officials the authority to check the monitor for a shot clock mistake.

If there is no replay equipment, the prevailing rule is 5-11-4, which also forbids canceling any flagrant or technical foul.

A.R. 153 covers the play if it is a common foul: cancel the foul, put time back on the clock and give Team B the ball for the shot clock violation.

I did find A.R. 153 last night which helped me figure out what should be done if it were a common foul called in that situation.