NCAA Shot Clock Violation Question

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I think this was a deliberate bending of the rule by the crew.

Or maybe they just had a brain fart and/or thought it hit the rim.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Or maybe they just had a brain fart and/or thought it hit the rim.

Twice in one half? It happened again a few minutes later. On the other end. Hey, at least they were consistent!


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[bucky]

I'd like to see that be a rule. If the defense gains control during a shot clock violation, then play on. Get rid of the game disruption.

Ex. Offense shoots, shot clock signals, airball shot is caught by defense. = play on.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

I'd like to see that be a rule. If the defense gains control during a shot clock violation, then play on. Get rid of the game disruption.

Ex. Offense shoots, shot clock signals, airball shot is caught by defense. = play on.

I saw a game this week with time running out in the game where the winning team chose, instead of not shooting and letting the shot clock expire, to toss the ball to the other team. The other team was holding the ball for 1-2 seconds before the shot clock expired. They still blew the whistle and gave them the ball on a throwin. The other team already had the ball. Why not let that one go!?@??

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I saw a game this week with time running out in the game where the winning team chose, instead of not shooting and letting the shot clock expire, to toss the ball to the other team. The other team was holding the ball for 1-2 seconds before the shot clock expired. They still blew the whistle and gave them the ball on a throwin. The other team already had the ball. Why not let that one go!?@??

That should not have been a whistle. Once B gets the ball the shot lock should reset

[bob jenkins]

Play similar to OP (as described) happens with 13.x to go in Loyola - Northern IA game. Officials correctly called the violation, then went to the monitor to put 14.6 on the clock.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Play similar to OP (as described) happens with 13.x to go in Loyola - Northern IA game. Officials correctly called the violation, then went to the monitor to put 14.6 on the clock.

Query: when does the violation occur? Is at the expiration of the shot clock? Or, if a shot is in the air, is it when it is apparent the ball will not hit the rim?

[JRutledge]

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Missed call.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by bucky

I'd like to see that be a rule. If the defense gains control during a shot clock violation, then play on. Get rid of the game disruption.

Ex. Offense shoots, shot clock signals, airball shot is caught by defense. = play on.

The only way that change would affect strategy is that sometimes that team would prefer a throw-in with the clock stopped. And of course sometimes they'd prefer not.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

The only way that change would affect strategy is that sometimes that team would prefer a throw-in with the clock stopped. And of course sometimes they'd prefer not.

For sure, good point. I was trying to think of other strategic reasons too. I can see a defense getting the ball and immediately being trapped by the new "defense". In that case, the violation would have benefited the new offense and penalized the shooting team. However, I prefer that there is no game disruption over those other rare situations. Lesser of two evils I guess, plus my preferences are also irrelevant.

[bucky]

So, just saw another case of this. With 10:38 to go in the Ohio State/Iowa game, there is an Ohio State shot attempt that is deflected high in the air. An Iowa player jumps, secures control of the ball in the air and lands. The shot clock horn sounds right about when the Iowa player touches the floor. Play continued for a split second and then Wymer blew his whistle indicating a shot clock violation. Here is a case where it would be nice, even if a violation, to ignore it. Also, not sure why Wymer called it a hair late.

Video would be nice but only if it is easy.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bucky

So, just saw another case of this. With 10:38 to go in the Ohio State/Iowa game, there is an Ohio State shot attempt that is deflected high in the air. An Iowa player jumps, secures control of the ball in the air and lands. The shot clock horn sounds right about when the Iowa player touches the floor. Play continued for a split second and then Wymer blew his whistle indicating a shot clock violation. Here is a case where it would be nice, even if a violation, to ignore it. Also, not sure why Wymer called it a hair late.

Video would be nice but only if it is easy.

By rule, that play should not have been stopped as the Iowa player secured control of the ball prior to the shot clock horn sounding.