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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 09:10am
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Cincinnati-Memphis Verticality and T

Can someone post the sequence at 3:31 in the second half where a Memphis defender walls up and then the Cincinnati coach gets whacked during a Memphis fastbreak?

Looked like a great no-call to me and of course Bilas thought it was a foul. I would have preferred to see the T withheld until the transition play was over, however.
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:07am
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Here is the play (Video)



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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:28am
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:46am
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So the defender was vertical until after the offense made contact but then he reaches with the right hand and arm forward to block the shot -- may have made contact with the arm and if he did at that point I have that as a foul. Pretty good verticality until he moves his hand and arm to block -- and that movement wasn't a product of the offensive players contact. You see it really will in the slo-mo #55 is who I reference.
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:53am
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 11:59am
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:35pm
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So the defender was vertical until after the offense made contact but then he reaches with the right hand and arm forward to block the shot -- may have made contact with the arm and if he did at that point I have that as a foul. Pretty good verticality until he moves his hand and arm to block -- and that movement wasn't a product of the offensive players contact. You see it really will in the slo-mo #55 is who I reference.
The question is "why"? Does the Offensive Initiate Contact make the defender's arms come forward?

I'm going to give the defender the benefit of the doubt on this one. I have seen players that are much worse if a defender is trying to block a shot at the last minute like in this play.

I think it is a solid no call.

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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:39pm
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:15pm
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I see the defender swinging his arm down on his own volition, not from the initial contact.
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Old Fri Jan 17, 2020, 04:20pm
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I've got a foul here too. Same reasons as others. Great d until he attempted to meet the ball and missed
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:22am
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I see the defender swinging his arm down on his own volition, not from the initial contact.
Tough to make out perfectly but I think that 55 was vertical and legal. I believe 23 white takes no contact from the offense and swings down to block the shot. Looks like contact with the arm but ref would have a better look.
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Old Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:26am
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Tough to make out perfectly but I think that 55 was vertical and legal. I believe 23 white takes no contact from the offense and swings down to block the shot. Looks like contact with the arm but ref would have a better look.
I can't re-watch the video while at work, but as I remember it, #55 swings down well after the initial contact, not as a reflex to the contact.
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