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Old Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:23pm
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Count starts as soon as the ball is legally touched. Team B has team control in this entire sequence. The rulebook states “A player must not be, not may his/her team be, in continuous control of the ball which is in his/her backcourt for 10 seconds” continuous team control in the backcourt would begin as soon as the ball is touched in the backcourt.

See 9-8 NFHS.


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Team Control on a throw in only applies to fouls committed by a player on the throw in team, not to violations such as 3 seconds or back court violations. The confusion based on 9-8 has been discussed here before. The ten second count does not begin until a player from Team B has gained control in the back court. A similar play to illustrate is Case Book 4.12.2.B
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:27pm
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Team Control on a throw in only applies to fouls committed by a player on the throw in team, not to violations such as 3 seconds or back court violations. The confusion based on 9-8 has been discussed here before. The ten second count does not begin until a player from Team B has gained control in the back court. A similar play to illustrate is Case Book 4.12.2.B


My supporting argument to counter this would be that the throwing in team had team control and never lost it. Once the ball is touched by a teammate of the thrower in, the 10 second count begins due to team control in the back court. Same thing if a defender tipped the throw in pass. Team B is still in team control and the count will begin unless someone on Team A were to gain player control.

The only reason I brought up team control on the throw in was to illustrate that Team B had team control once the ball is legally touched in the backcourt, unless player control is gained by a member of team A.


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Old Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:31pm
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A similar play to illustrate is Case Book 4.12.2.B
Nice citation billyu2.

4.12.2 SITUATION B: During a throw-in by A-1 from the
end line by Team A’s basket: (a) A2 is in the restricted lane
area for four seconds of the throw-in count; or (b) the throw-in
is touched by A2 before it goes across the division line where
it is recovered by A3. RULING: Legal in (a) and (b), even
though Team A is in team control during the throw-in. There
is no three-second count in (a) since team control had not yet
been established in Team A’s frontcourt. There is no
backcourt violation in (b) since team control had not yet been
established in team A’s frontcourt before the ball went into
Team A’s backcourt. The throw-in ends when A2 legally
touches the ball, but the backcourt count does not start until
A3 gains control in his/her backcourt.
(9-7, 8, 9)
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