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backcourt violation?
1--Player dribbles parallel to the division line and adjacent to the division line in his frontcourt.
While dribbling, he has both feet in the front court, but the ball touches the floor on the dribble in the backcourt. Is this a backcourt violation? 2--Player dribbles parallel to the division line and adjacent to the division line in his frontcourt. While dribbling, he places one foot on the division line, but the other foot and the ball remain in the frontcourt, Is this a backcourt violation? Thanks. |
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You're omitting a key detail. YOU'RE saying he's dribbling in frontcourt, but we can't be certain you really know what that means (unless you're an official). But taking you literally, both are violations.
1 -- If he's dribbling the ball from backcourt to frontcourt, and all three things (two feet and ball) have yet to touch the frontcourt, then no. But as you describe it, he's already firmly established in frontcourt (i.e., nothing touching backcourt), and then dribbles ball so it touches backcourt violation. 2 -- As you describe it, he's already firmly established in frontcourt (i.e., nothing touching backcourt), and then steps on division line violation. |
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No Backcourt Violation Until A Touch ...
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No backcourt violation unless he touches the ball as it bounces off the floor in the backcourt back to his hand. If he never touches the ball it's just a ball that bounces into the backcourt, and thus, no backcourt violation. The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control (and initial player control when coming from a throw-in); the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball before it goes into the backcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt. Do not confuse this backcourt play with 9-3-1-Note: A player shall not cause the ball to go out of bounds. The dribbler has committed a violation if he/she steps on or outside a boundary, even though he/she is not touching the ball while he/she is out of bounds. 9-3-1-Note refers to an out of bounds violation, not a backcourt violation. Two different animals.
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Not very clear what happened first on your play. So it is possible this is not a violation of the player never completely came into FC status by the things I just described. Quote:
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If he never touches the ball it's just a ball that bounces into the backcourt, and thus, no backcourt violation.
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If front court status had been established both situations would be a backcourt violation
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Situation 1, No Backcourt ...
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Never Assume ...
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It doesn't say that in the original post. Young'uns, or distracted veterans, may sound the whistle as soon as the ball touches the backcourt. Anticipate the play, not the call. Most of us realize that we have to wait for the offensive touch to call a backcourt violation. Who knows? A defender could come in, make a steal, leading to a dunk down the other end? More importantly, it's not the correct call.
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I agree it wouldn't be a backcourt violation. Instead, it would be a 10-second violation.
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I have to watch out when I use hyperbole on the Forum. We've got some pretty sharp members that have been around the block several times and have been to more than just a few rodeos. And to be honest, though I would hate to admit it, I probably would not start counting. Of course, I would be wrong. Still being honest, even if a defender flicked (no control) the ball into the backcourt, I'm not 100% sure that I would start counting until an offensive player touched it. Again, I would be wrong. At least I would get these situations correct on a written test. That has to count for something. Right?
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Backcourt ...
Why didn't you say so earlier?
Backcourt violations.
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