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Old Wed Mar 20, 2019, 01:00pm
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I haven't looked it up myself yet. I agree with you, but someone I trust said it goes by the whistle and that it is an NCAA quirk in the rules.
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Nearly the identical play from the NCAAW Case book:

A.R. 22. A1 sets a legal screen for teammate A2, who has the ball. B1, in trying
to defend the shot, pushes through the screen of A1. When the illegal contact
occurs, A2 has not started her trying motion, but when the official blows the
whistle A2’s trying motion has started. She continues her trying motion and the
ball enters the basket.
RULING: The goal by A2 is scored because when the whistle sounded,
A2 was in the act of shooting and continuous motion applies. If Team
A is not in the bonus, Team A will be awarded the ball for a throw-in
at the out of bounds spot nearest to where the foul occurred. If Team
A is in the bonus, A1 will be awarded two free throws.
Note: The only reference in the rules book to when a "foul occurs"
is when the game clock reads zeroes at the end of a period and the
officials are using a courtside monitor to determine whether the
illegal contact (foul) occurred before the reading of zeroes on the
game clock. Otherwise, the whistle normally blows so close to when
the foul occurs that there is not enough of a separation to determine
a difference. By rule, the whistle is sounded when a foul occurs and
the ball becomes dead when the whistle sounds, unless at the time
the whistle is sounded a try is in flight or continuous motion applies.
(Rule 2-7.2, 6-5.1.f, 6-6.1, 6-6.2 and 11-3.1.a.3)
My source is the husband of a D1 Women's coach (whose team made the NCAA-W's tourney, btw), so maybe that was his citation also. I'll look up the Men's side after my staff meeting.
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Old Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:03pm
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My source is the husband of a D1 Women's coach (whose team made the NCAA-W's tourney, btw), so maybe that was his citation also. I'll look up the Men's side after my staff meeting.
I just scoured the Men's rule and case books and I cannot find any citation that states the whistle, not the foul itself, is used to determine if continuous motion is in effect.
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I just scoured the Men's rule and case books and I cannot find any citation that states the whistle, not the foul itself, is used to determine if continuous motion is in effect.
Is there a rule, or a caseplay, that that states that the foul is used to determine if continuous motion is in effect, without ever mentioning the whistle.
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