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Old Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:53pm
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Seton Hall/Xavier continuous motion (video request)

Block called with 0:29.0 left in 2nd half. Was ruled a non-shooting foul.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:34am
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Fine, fine. I'll answer my own request (I was going to bed when I made the OP )



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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:40am
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If this was NBA, definitely continuation. If NFHS, then no. NCAA, flip a coin.

In my opinion, it was not continuation. I don't think his arm movement with the ball when the whistle was blown was part of starting a shot.
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If this was NBA, definitely continuation. If NFHS, then no. NCAA, flip a coin.

In my opinion, it was not continuation. I don't think his arm movement with the ball when the whistle was blown was part of starting a shot.

The rule in the NBA is basically the same as the NF rule.

NCAA is only different because they require an upward motion.

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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:00am
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If this was NBA, definitely continuation. If NFHS, then no. NCAA, flip a coin.

In my opinion, it was not continuation. I don't think his arm movement with the ball when the whistle was blown was part of starting a shot.
NFHS and NBA rule is just about the same. NCAA-M is more restrictive.

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Doesn't upward motion only apply to an airborne shooter? The illegal contact in this play was before the BH/D left the floor.

Also, after a quick scan of the NCAAM rule book I don't see the word "upward" used in connection with airborne shooter situations.
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Doesn't upward motion only apply to an airborne shooter? The illegal contact in this play was before the BH/D left the floor.

Also, after a quick scan of the NCAAM rule book I don't see the word "upward" used in connection with airborne shooter situations.
We've been told to interpret upward motion as the beginning of the shot.

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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:30pm
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Looks like a non-shooting common foul to me. Upward motion started a full step after initial defensive contact IMO...however, the "gather" took place right at contact. What do you want to use as the start of the "habitual throwing movement"?
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Forget upward motion, that's a charging foul.
Why is the Lead jumping on this play? This is the C's call. It is a primary defender from above the FT line. Watch the movement of the C after the whistle. I believe that he is going the other way.
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Forget upward motion, that's a charging foul.
Why is the Lead jumping on this play? This is the C's call. It is a primary defender from above the FT line. Watch the movement of the C after the whistle. I believe that he is going the other way.
Good thing that the L saved the C, cause that would've been a horrible call, IMO.
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Forget upward motion, that's a charging foul.
Why is the Lead jumping on this play? This is the C's call. It is a primary defender from above the FT line. Watch the movement of the C after the whistle. I believe that he is going the other way.
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Good thing that the L saved the C, cause that would've been a horrible call, IMO.
I feel there is some legitimacy in Nevada's point.
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I feel there is some legitimacy in Nevada's point.
Eh, I don't. I don't think the defender kept LGP.

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Watch the movement of the C after the whistle. I believe that he is going the other way.
Didn't notice as I watched it live. Yeah, C was loading up to ship that the other way.
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Eh, I don't. I don't think the defender kept LGP.

But if you throw yourself into the defender, LGP may not apply.

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He's past the defender, who bumps him from behind. I just don't see how you put this on the offensive player...
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