The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 01:50pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,954
Around here players have a certain amount of time to vacate the confines of the gym (or get to the bench if children) when they get ejected. After that, it is a forfeit and I'm sure some type of suspension or banishment from that particular league.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 02:08pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,404
Let's Go To The Videotape ...

5-4-1: The referee shall forfeit the game if a team refuses to play after
being instructed to do so by any official. The referee may also forfeit a
game if any player, team member, bench personnel or coach fails to comply
with any technical-foul penalty, or repeatedly commits technical-foul
infractions or other acts which make a travesty of the game. If the team to
which the game is forfeited is ahead, the score at the time of forfeiture shall
stand. If this team is not ahead, the score shall be recorded as 2-0 in its
favor.

5.4.1 SITUATION A COMMENT: The referee may forfeit a game if any player, team member, bench personnel or coach fails to comply with any technical foul penalty.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 02:23pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
Around here players have a certain amount of time to vacate the confines of the gym (or get to the bench if children) when they get ejected.
Does a second (or even third) technical foul charged to a player automatically warrant an ejection?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 02:53pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Altor View Post
Does a second (or even third) technical foul charged to a player automatically warrant an ejection?
2 direct T's result in a DQ. In HS all T's are direct, except for T's against bench personnel which also result in an indirect on the coach. 2 directs or any combination of 3 direct & indirect T's result in a DQ for the coach.
__________________
in OS I trust
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 03:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Indiana
Posts: 163
Quote:
Originally Posted by deecee View Post
2 direct T's result in a DQ. In HS all T's are direct, except for T's against bench personnel which also result in an indirect on the coach. 2 directs or any combination of 3 direct & indirect T's result in a DQ for the coach.
This league follows the NFHS/IHSAA(Indiana) rules as the umbrella with a few "house rules"...such as, every player must play 2 full quarters, no subs, no press if up by 10 or more.

So yes, with this player getting 2 direct technicals, he was done for the day and must sit the teams next game because of getting tossed out. His coach must meet with player and the league commissioner to discuss the reason behind it and the commissioner, at his discretion will either allow him back after the 1 game off or boot them from the league. This kid will serve his one game and be back (provided they win their next game which is tournament).

We have had kids and a long time ago, a couple coaches who were booted and banned from playing and coaching in the league for fighting and just being general d-bags. They instituted a Code of Conduct that all players, parents and coaches sign off on. It's not fool proof but the league is well run and for the most part, we have eliminated a lot of the "trash" with that COC and having multiple board members on duty during the games along with Indy Metro Police officer in each gym.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 02:53pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Altor View Post
Does a second (or even third) technical foul charged to a player automatically warrant an ejection?
In every venue I work it does.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 05:16pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
In every venue I work it does.
2 T's to a player warrants an ejection?!?!? It's results in disqualification, but only coaches are ejected under NFHS rules.

My point was what others have said. Under NFHS rules, a player (especially a minor in a HS league and having an adult coach) is not required to leave the venue just because he/she has 2 (or even 3) T's. There may be other reasons to ask him/her to leave (with supervision), but the number of T's isn't directly one of them.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 05:35pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Altor View Post
2 T's to a player warrants an ejection?!?!? It's results in disqualification, but only coaches are ejected under NFHS rules.

My point was what others have said. Under NFHS rules, a player (especially a minor in a HS league and having an adult coach) is not required to leave the venue just because he/she has 2 (or even 3) T's. There may be other reasons to ask him/her to leave (with supervision), but the number of T's isn't directly one of them.
Rec leagues. Not talking about high school games.

They don't want the nonsense in their gyms.

Only recball I do is adults, so maybe it's different for children around here.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR

Last edited by Raymond; Mon Mar 04, 2019 at 06:26pm.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 04, 2019, 11:19pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
Rec leagues. Not talking about high school games.
The OP specifically said HS Rec league. Barring some house rule like you mention, and especially since there appears to be an adult in the coaches box, I don't think it's prudent to "eject" a player.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 05, 2019, 08:54am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Altor View Post
The OP specifically said HS Rec league. Barring some house rule like you mention, and especially since there appears to be an adult in the coaches box, I don't think it's prudent to "eject" a player.
It's also not prudent to let a player hold up the game by his refusal to follow instructions and having tirades on the court after being "disqualified".

The last thing I would be thinking about in a rec game is what the NFHS literature says.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A seven-game Saturday bainsey Basketball 16 Mon Jun 25, 2012 01:01am
Looking for something to do this Saturday? Mark Padgett Basketball 8 Mon Apr 13, 2009 07:40am
3 Ts on Saturday A Pennsylvania Coach Basketball 3 Mon Feb 02, 2009 04:27pm
BIG Game Saturday TXMike Football 0 Mon Sep 10, 2007 06:25pm
Saturday funnies Mark Padgett Basketball 12 Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:37pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1