Back Court violation?

[SC Official]

Everyone knows the rules as written are not clear. This has been discussed ad nauseam.

But the NFHS has made it crystal clear that team control during a throw-in (and the period between the end of the throw-in and a player gaining control) is ONLY for foul purposes. You CANNOT have a violation for backcourt, 3 seconds, 10 seconds, etc. until PLAYER CONTROL has been established inbounds, thus creating true team control.

This situation has also been an official interpretation multiple times.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

They are arguing that a front court throwin is team control in the front court and that team control continues until one of the 3 criteria, (shot, deadball, turnover).

There is no front court or back court status when the ball is out of bounds for a throw-in. There is no front court or back court status until there is player control established inbounds.

That's why in high school basketball you cannot start a 10-second backcourt count when a throw-in pass is deflected into the backcourt until somebody gains player control.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Situation B: Throwin by A1 on the endline in Team A's frontcourt. Deep throwin pass toward the division line. Throwin pass is deflected by B2 in Team A's frontcourt and then A2, while jumping from Team A's frontcourt, secures control of the ball with both feet off the floor and returns to the floor with both feet in Team A's backcourt. You make the call.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Billy Macs play makes it a backcourt violation.

Situation B: Correct. Pick a prize from the top shelf.

4-42-5-A: The throw-in ends when: The passed ball touches or is touched by another player inbounds.

9-9-3: During a throw-in a player may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

true team control.

Nice. Too bad the NFHS doesn't add this to Rule 4 Definitions.

We all know that an ugly caterpillar will one day become a beautiful butterfly.

Maybe an ugly Point of Emphasis will one day become a beautiful rule?

[Nevadaref]

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ion-throw.html

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ion-throw.html

it would be if I didn't have to wait 30 seconds between searches.

[Sharpshooternes]

Do we have a video of the new BC exception play? (ie the catching of the ball by a player int he back court)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

They are arguing that a front court throwin is team control in the front court and that team control continues until one of the 3 criteria, (shot, deadball, turnover).

Team control during throw in is for foul purposes only. Search the forum. We have been over this 8,000,000,000,000 times. It’s all been explained previously.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Team control during throw in is for foul purposes only. Search the forum. We have been over this 8,000,000,000,000 times. It’s all been explained previously.

Be careful, we could break the internet.

Too bad all basketball officials, and the NFHS rules editor, don't read the Forum.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

it would be if I didn't have to wait 30 seconds between searches.

You don't....if you use google.

In the google search bar, add site:forum.officiating.com along with whatever other search terms you want and it will search this forum only. You don't have to wait.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Now let's change it up a little.

Situation B: Throwin by A1 on the endline in Team A's frontcourt. Deep throwin pass toward the division line. Throwin pass is deflected by B2 in Team A's frontcourt and then A2, while jumping from Team A's frontcourt, secures control of the ball with both feet off the floor and returns to the floor with both feet in Team A's backcourt. You make the call.

BC violation. 9.9.1.Sit D.