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Old Tue Jan 29, 2019, 06:31pm
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I also had a play similar to the OP in a boys varsity game yesterday. While it was a different foul (illegal use of hands, for hitting the shooter on the hand), I made a similar call in a similar situation to the OP (I was Center calling across the lane, just as the OP was). KIPP (White, the home team) was playing Maya Angelou (Red), and the game was in the 2nd quarter, KIPP leading by ~10 points when a White player drove to the basket from Trail's side. Red 3 hit the White player on his arm as White started his shooting motion. Trail was out of position, so he did not make a call. I paused to see if Lead would make a call (the play was in his primary area), and when neither of the other officials made the call, I called the foul. After the play was over and the free throws were attempted, Red 3 admitted that I made the right call.
Why are you naming the participants? What did L say about your call?

If you put any value in a player telling you you made the right call, you have to put value in them telling you you blew it.
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Old Tue Jan 29, 2019, 06:37pm
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Why are you naming the participants?
Too much specific information. Some really not needed. Maybe name dropping?

I believe that ilyazhito is an IAABO member. As a fellow IAABO member I should warn him to keep a low profile and try to remain anonymous on social media.

From IAABO International:

With the onslaught of social media (Facebook, LinkedIn etc.) there are many ways for officials to become controversial very innocently. Officials love to talk, I am sure you know the old saying "tell a ref tell the world". How often does the conversation between officials start with "I had this play" and then we continue with one upsmanship and "I had this play" and so on. We were always concerned when we were having an adult beverage in an establishment talking basketball, being heard by someone as we made comments about a coach, player or even rowdy fans. Why wouldn't we have the same concern today where, instead of being out in public making comments we now make them online? The danger again is that we do not know who views these comments, and we do not know what they will do with these comments.

My concern is that an errant comment made by an official can come back to haunt them, in fact most Division 1 conferences have added this clause to the officials contract. "The office must refrain from any public criticism of the conference, Conference staff, coaches, student athletes, and Conference athletic departments. This criticism includes communicating with the media, and other basketball officials, as well as any method of social or electronic media (Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, email etc.). Any violation of this policy will result in disciplinary action being taken, which could include one or more of the following actions: private reprimand, suspension or termination".

This may filter down to the state athletic associations in the near future, thus the point of this article is to give our officials a heads up on what is happening in our officiating world. You just might want to give some thought to the above before you make that next "click".
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:40pm
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Why are you naming the participants? What did L say about your call?

If you put any value in a player telling you you made the right call, you have to put value in them telling you you blew it.
At halftime, the Referee on the game (who was the T on the play in question) told me that the call was a good get. L said that he could not see the play.

If I blow a call, or make a mistake that could affect the game (I hand the ball to the thrower early on a throw-in) I will admit it and move on. I have rarely seen players admit that they have fouled or committed a violation, so it is noticeable (and remarkable) for me when it happens.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:50pm
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I have rarely seen players admit that they have fouled or committed a violation, so it is noticeable (and remarkable) for me when it happens.
Last week, middle school game. My partner makes a foul call for a player that could have been in the act, or no shot, it was close, he called it in the act, and I silently agreed.

As he's reporting, I'm lining up the kids for the free throws, and ask the shooter, "You were shooting, right?".

I was 100% sure to get a positive reply.

The kid shrugs his shoulders.

Diogenes should have talked to this kid, it could have saved him a lot of time.

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