11.1 REACHING BEYOND THE NET - for '05-'06

[OmniSpiker]

11.1 REACHING BEYOND THE NET
11.1.1 In blocking, a blocker may touch the ball beyond
the net, provided that he/she does not interfere with
the opponents’ play before or during the latter’s
attack hit.
11.1.2 After an attack hit, a player is permitted to pass his/her
hand beyond the net, provided that the contact has been
made within his/her own playing space.
USAV 11.1.2: A player is not permitted to pass hand(s)
beyond the net inside the antennas and contact the ball
over the opponent’s court.

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Okay so in application of the USAV rule.

What is the application of the rule to the definition of ‘follow through on a hit’:
11.1.2 After an attack hit, a player is permitted to pass his/her hand beyond the net, provided that the contact has been made within his/her own playing space

Say if it means the same thing then:
USAV 11.1.2: A player is not permitted to pass hand(s) beyond the net inside the antennas and contact the ball over the opponent’s court.

Says that there’s nothing wrong with your hand following through after your attack which contact was made on your side. While now the follow through contact is made while above the opponent's court.
Is this a rule infraction?

To really must know the quirk about this rule is that, while an attacker’s hand is still there over their opponent’s court, then all the opponent has to do is push a ball into the attacker’s hand to get a rule infraction. LOL’s but if you turn it around and say that the roles have been switched the moment the defender is pushing the ball and directing it back at the other side of the net, ha, ha, ha, then the hand on the follow through is now immediately blocking. So going back to this rule:
11.1.1 In blocking, a blocker may touch the ball beyond the net, provided that he/she does not interfere with the opponents’ play before or during the latter’s attack hit.

How say if the ball was blocked right back into the attacker?
1. into the attacker’s hand that’s over the opponent’s court
2. into the attacker on the attacker’s side of the court
2a. Would that be treated as a block?
2b. If not a block, would that be treated as one of the team’s three contact.
2c. Or the contact is invalid and ball is out of play?

Not sure if this has been discussed in the past, but usually the ball has grounded and we just went with the most obvious, but if it should be fielded and is still in rally?

[Vowe]

It is really??

[MCBear]

How say if the ball was blocked right back into the attacker?
1. into the attacker’s hand that’s over the opponent’s court
2. into the attacker on the attacker’s side of the court
2a. Would that be treated as a block?
2b. If not a block, would that be treated as one of the team’s three contact.
2c. Or the contact is invalid and ball is out of play?

1. Contact with the attacker is considered as a block since the player's hand is above the top of the net - play on!
2. Same thing - considered to be a block with three hits remaining.
2a. Absolutely.
2b. Nope, see 2 and 2a.
2c. There is no such thing as an invalid contact - it is either play on because we have a legal contact or a loss of rally because we have a fault.

[OmniSpiker]

In conjecture it's pretty much blocking the block or as is.

hmmm, that gives me an idea about hitting and blocking the block altogether.

Thanks all, I just wanted to re-affirm that I wasn't thinking about it wrong.