When to start 10 second count?

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by DrPete

So to answer to the OP, begin the 10 second count when the player gains control of the ball in the backcourt.

Don't feel bad; Joyce S.(VHSL BBall Rules honcho) got it wrong last time I asked her...

[DrPete]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Don't feel bad; Joyce S.(VHSL BBall Rules honcho) got it wrong last time I asked her...

Oh no, I just emailed her about another rules interpretation!

Thanks Nevada for the 2008-2009 case book play reference. I started in 2009, and while it may have been published again since 2008, I didn't remember it.


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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DrPete

Oh no, I just emailed her about another rules interpretation

Ask us and compare the answers.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by DrPete

Maybe the poster is coach, a fan or a rec league ref without access to a rule book.

This is not quite true, in this internet age. There are fairly-recent on-line resources, in fact--a 2017-2018 rule book and a 2016-2017 casebook--which can be searched easily.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

... in this internet age. There are ... on-line resources ... which can be searched easily.

... for example, the Forum.

And if you're having trouble searching, just type in a question to one of our many expert online customer service representatives (most not located in India) to start an online chat, and you'll likely get a pretty reliable answer in a very short period of time.

Isn't this internet age just amazing? It's so easy to find information. But be careful. Remember what our sixteenth president, Abraham Lincoln, said, "Don't believe everything you read on the internet".

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... for example, the Forum.

...

...If the person answering CHOOSES to give a straight-forward, rule book answer. There is no obligation to do so, and those who don't shouldn't be demonized for not doing someone else's leg work.

All the posters here whom I trust with rules knowledge (including myself) engage the OPs with questions to further the discussion in order to lead to a logical and researched conclusion. These discussions often cause us to do our own research and discover some nuances we may ourselves not been aware of initially.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Jqb12

Player A is dribbling in his frontcourt....B knocks the ball out of his hand and it is slowly rolling into the backcourt. Player A just takes his time to walk over and pick up the ball.....When do you start the 10 second count?
Thanks

When would you start it? What does 10 second rule say?

[SC Official]

So, to clarify...

NFHS: Count begins when team control in the backcourt begins. Following a throw-in, that means the count begins once player control is established in the backcourt (true team control). When the ball is deflected by the defense into the backcourt but is still in the offense's control, the count begins as soon as the ball gains backcourt status.

NCAA-M/W: Count begins when the ball is touched in the backcourt by the team in control. The count begins when the throw-in ends when touched in the backcourt. When there is no team control, the count begins when player control in the backcourt begins.

Correct?

[thumpferee]

Originally Posted by SC Official

So, to clarify...

NFHS: Count begins when team control in the backcourt begins. Following a throw-in, that means the count begins once player control is established in the backcourt (true team control). When the ball is deflected by the defense into the backcourt but is still in the offense's control, the count begins as soon as the ball gains backcourt status.

NCAA-M/W: Count begins when the ball is touched in the backcourt by the team in control. The count begins when the throw-in ends when touched in the backcourt. When there is no team control, the count begins when player control in the backcourt begins.

Correct?

I'm looking for clarification on this too!

For NFHS, I would say on a throw-in, the 10 second could would not start until player control was established in the BC. Correct?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

For NFHS, I would say on a throw-in, the 10 second could would not start until player control was established in the BC.

Always listen to SC Official. Wait ... I'm being told ... bob who?

Originally Posted by SC Official

NFHS: Count begins when team control in the backcourt begins. Following a throw-in, that means the count begins once player control is established in the backcourt. When the ball is deflected by the defense into the backcourt but is still in the offense's control, the count begins as soon as the ball gains backcourt status.

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[bucky]

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[Raymond]

3 straight posts quoting yourself. This may be a new record.

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[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Raymond

3 straight posts quoting yourself. This may be a new record.

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Ha. No it’s not. Billy does hold the record but it’s many more than 3...����

[ilyazhito]

Yes, and none of the posts relevant to the ostensible topic of this thread. Maybe NFHS addresses the 10-second count in their next rules questionnaire, or adds a comment section to it. I'd put in the suggestions that I posted earlier.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Yes, and none of the posts relevant to the ostensible topic of this thread. Maybe NFHS addresses the 10-second count in their next rules questionnaire, or adds a comment section to it. I'd put in the suggestions that I posted earlier.

What's to address? It's clear, by the current rules.


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