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Violation???
While administrating a spot throw-in. I gave the ball to A1 who put the ball on the ground, out of bounds and ran in-bounds. A2 came out of bounds, picked up the ball and threw it in to A3. This was done in under 5 seconds. Is this a violation?
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Yes. MTD Sr.
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No. MTD Sr. P.S. When I read So Cal Lurker's question I knew that he asked if the situation that he posted was "legal" but my brain read his question in the same connotation as the Scooby's question: "Is this a violation?" For which the correct answer is: No. But the correct answer to So Cal Lurker's situation as he asked it ("Is this legal?") is: Yes. Since I retired from college officiating after the 2007-08 season I do not study the NCAA Men's and Women's Rules in detail every year as I did when I still officiated at that level. Therefore, I have a question for NevadaRef: Which of the two situations above in the thread does the A.R. apply and does it apply to both NCAA Men's and Women's? MTD, Sr.
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The NCAA has an AR that putting the ball on the floor is not a pass and therefore this action is not allowed, which is nuts, butNFHS has no such ruling. |
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I agree with Nevada -- the OP is a violation; the revision (after a score) is not.
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Although I may be splitting an extremely fine hair, the answer to the second scenario may not be so clear.
Under 7-5-7, a thrower-in "may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary." Does "outside the boundary" modify "teammate" or "pass the ball along the end line"? If the former, at the moment A1 set the ball down (assuming this is a "pass"), A2, who was in-bounds, was not "a teammate outside the boundary." If not, then 7-5-7 does not save Team A from a violation. If the latter, then 7-5-7 would apply. Unless there is a 15 year-old case, no longer in the book, that says.... |
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So what is the rule being violated, in NFHS? I do not know which it is?
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Rules 4-42, 7-6, and 9-2 cover everything you need to know.
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Very close but not 100% accurate
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Leaving The Court For An Unauthorized Reason ...
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Correct?
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It's The Old Switcheroo ...
... the oldest trick in the book.
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is at the thrower's disposal, except as in 7-5-7. 9-2-1: The thrower shall not leave the designated throw-in spot until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.
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