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Old Tue Dec 04, 2018, 08:37am
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The player remains a player. No substitute replaced him, so he cannot he bench personnel by rule. He didn’t leave the floor during a live ball, so his action is not a violation for leaving the floor.

I’ve never liked the interpretation, but under NFHS rules the player may re-enter without penalty as long as he returns without advantage.
I have long thought the rule should be that if you are playing with four, either:

a) you play with four until the next opportunity to substitute, or

b) you play with four until your team has the ball or the other team "withholds the ball from play" (or whatever the specific wording is) -- similar to a minor injury.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2018, 11:23am
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I appreciate those who gave their attention to this situation and offered detailed rule based interpretations, as well as those who explained why it was important to discuss such matters.

They're teenagers, they screw up all the time, no matter what level the game is. Sometimes the adult coach, or the adults at the table screw up. Yes, the officials should always be aware of how many players are on the court, but sometimes we screw up, and sometimes the number of players on the court, be it four, or six, is beyond our control and we need to know how to handle it properly, by the rulebook, and not interpret by flying by the seat of our pants.

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Old Tue Dec 04, 2018, 06:25pm
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They're teenagers, they screw up all the time, no matter what level the game is. Sometimes the adult coach, or the adults at the table screw up.
And sometimes the adults lead the kids to the screw up.

Recent varsity game, kid reports to table, table hits the horn, player runs on to court. Pretty standard . . . except, the ball had already been given to the free thrower, so the table should not have hit the horn--but its the kid who gets tagged with the T.

Yes, I agree that by varsity a kid should know to get the signal from the ref, and I understand this is by the book a T--curious how many would give that T, how many would whistle the FT dead when the timer hits the horn, and how many would shoo the kid back rather than assessing the T.
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Old Tue Dec 04, 2018, 07:11pm
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Whistle it dead on the horn and prevent a mess. I’m not penalizing a kid when the table crew screws up.
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