A Rat

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here's my question, 1st of all, I believe we should be a brotherhood, we should support and raise one another up.

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I agree. But feelings do come into play. I go back to officiating shoild be a brotherhood. We should support one another, not split because we lost an election.

This is all well and good, but at the end of the day this is a competitive, often cutthroat business no matter how much we want it to be a utopia.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I've held my tongue as long as I can. I'd like the opinions of fellow members here.

In March of last season, we elected officers for this season. The President for the 2017-18 season lost. He did not take losing well. ( BTW, He lost 67% to 33% it wasn't close) He broke many of our by laws by going to the area schools and soliciting games for a new officials association that he planned to form. But he hadn't resigned from our board UNTIL the schools had committed to giving him games.

Here's my question, 1st of all, I believe we should be a brotherhood, we should support and raise one another up. How would you handle this situation? Some of our members want to work both boards. ( BTW, we have about 2500 assignments and his board took about 100 )

If one of our members works for his board ( at this point we know of 2) Should there be a penalty? What type of penalty?

Does this happen in other areas? We have a contract with the area schools and conference, we were to be the EXCLUSIVE provider of officiating services for basketball. They interpret the contract differently ( NOW) We serve about 13 high schools, 3 of them have given us all the conference games, not the non conference games, 1 school gave the other board ALL their schedule ( 15 games ) because he offered to work 2 person instead of 3 person, the remainder of schools have given us their entire schedule.

I'd like to stay positive, but this guy.....sore loser. Rat.

If it were truly an exclusive contract, you could seek a judicial review. He could have be seen as interfering with a contractual relationship. But is it worth it? Here’s the deal, officials are independent contractors in most areas. We do know some of The practicalities but....

If someone wants to work under two assigner umbrellas so what? You can assign whoever you want but are you now interfering with some contractual relationship? Honestly I’d let it go, work hard... show them who has the quality officials and why....

[Rich]

Yup.

I assign for 23 boys programs and 22 girls programs.

Some people choose not to work for me.

I choose not to hire some people.

Some people ask for only boys games. With rare exception, I don't grant that request as I prefer working with people who will take both. I also remember how much I hated it as an official when assigners would offer fewer boys games to me cause he accommodated these requests, a request I don't make.

Does this cost me some officials? Sure.

Does it dramatically affect my assigning? No.

My goal isn't to get the "best" officials. It's to get ones who really want to work at my smaller schools. I've stopped using some who get off my games too often - a few of those, I'm convinced, dump my games to take ones at bigger high schools or ones closer to home.

That said, I don't keep a black list -- a coach telling me he doesn't want a particular official usually has me respond with me saying I don't keep a black list.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

It's to get ones who really want to work at my smaller schools.

I like working big games at big schools in front of big crowds, but I also like working games at smaller schools in some of our rural areas. In many of these small towns there's nothing else to do on a Friday night except watch a high school basketball game, so it's the biggest event in town. The gyms may be smaller, but they're almost always filled up with enthusiastic fans, both parents, and students. The players may not be as skilled as in bigger schools, teams often consist of a few basketball players and some football players and baseball players looking to stay in shape, and have some fun with their friends, in the winter.

I just wish that they wouldn't park their John Deere tractors in the best parking spaces in the school parking lot, often taking up two spaces. And watch out, if you make bad call you may get some tobacco juice spit at you. Makes doing my laundry a pain.

[RefRich]

Doesn't he have to get the approval of the state to start another recognized group?

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by RefRich

Doesn't he have to get the approval of the state to start another recognized group?

In WV yes and they denied him. In Md. No. He could work 1 game and he is his own association.

Great replies. Thanks. The contract says we are the exclusive provider of services to the conference, not to the schools, not what we wanted but it's 6 pages of legalese.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

....The contract says we are the exclusive provider of services to the conference, not to the schools, not what we wanted but it's 6 pages of legalese.

Which means other associations can work non-conference events like holiday showcases at a conference School. That's how it is down here because my association does that. In previous years the servicing Association tried to strong-arm the schools into not allowing other officials to work those events.



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