block/charge

[jeremy341a]

Thoughts on this block call? Is there any reason this should come from the C?

[JRutledge]

Not many thoughts because I cannot tell much of anything in the video. The video has our look totally straighlined.

The play is in transition, so the C would be one of the main people making this call.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not many thoughts because I cannot tell much of anything in the video. The video has our look totally straighlined.

The play is in transition, so the C would be one of the main people making this call.

Peace

That's is what I was really wondering about. Not such much the accuracy of the call as to why the C made it. I thought that from his view straight from the side he would have a hard time telling if the defender was legal. I was was thinking the L would have a better look. On further viewings I noticed he was a little late getting to the end line.

[JRutledge]

The C might be the only person that sees the entire play. Again, this is in transition. The L might not be in a settled position to see this play. Even the T can come in if they clearly see the play. Again, it is in transition, where we help until we all get to where we need to be on the court.

Peace

[Raymond]

The video is 20 minutes long, what am I supposed to be looking for?

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

The video is 20 minutes long, what am I supposed to be looking for?

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I think all he wants to see the play first run at the way he has it set up, but he does not help you with that information very well. I believe the video play is the block-charge which you can see at the 12:12 mark.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think all he wants to see the play first run at the way he has it set up, but he does not help you with that information very well. I believe the video play is the block-charge which you can see at the 12:12 mark.

Peace

My mistake. I had it set up to run right before the play in question. I didn't realize that people would think I wondered about a play that would take place at a different time. I apologize. I will try to be more clear in the future.

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

My mistake. I had it set up to run right before the play in question. I didn't realize that people would think I wondered about a play that would take place at a different time. I apologize. I will try to be more clear in the future.

It did start at the correct time for me using my laptop. I believe Raymond is using Tapatalk to view, which may not jive with the YouTube encoding.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

It did start at the correct time for me using my laptop. I believe Raymond is using Tapatalk to view, which may not jive with the YouTube encoding.

It started on mine correctly too, but I was not sure that it did that until later. He did not set it up for us very well.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Raymond

The video is 20 minutes long, what am I supposed to be looking for?

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Does it not start near the block/charge play at 12:12? Do I have it embedded wrong? I apologize

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Does it not start near the block/charge play at 12:12? Do I have it embedded wrong? I apologize

No, it started at the beginning of the video. I know there's a way to make it start at a certain point but I don't know it.

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[Raymond]

For the play around the 12:12 mark, I have no problem with the C having a whistle because the Lead was late and didn't look like he reacted to the play at all.

WACG Squad will be on my radar if they come through the local AAU facility, b/c they have some sh!tty sportsmanship from coaches to players to fans. I've had Bradley Beal's team before and they were well-behaved.

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This is Lead's play. Straight down the pipe, Lead should be at closedown or very close and have eyes on secondary defenders in the paint. Slot should not have a whistle at all, assuming Lead does. If Lead doesn't hit it, Slot should come in with a late whistle and clean up.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... they have some sh!tty sportsmanship ...

I'm fairly certain that it's not the officials who allow the players to wear illegal undershirts, it's most likely the host AAU organization (game management) that instructs the officials not to enforce the rule (maybe teams have reversible jerseys, and don't know in advance what color jersey, or undershirt, they'll be wearing from game to game). So I find fault with game management, not the officials.

As it stands, this game is a mess, lots of borderline stuff, language, body language, boasting, bragging, posturing, etc., that would get a, "Knock it off", from me in my high school game, probably not technical fouls, but this stuff wouldn't be ignored for fear that it would escalate into something that would require technical fouls, possibly a fight.

I could be wrong, but maybe this game could be a little more sporting if the officials showed up pregame and told both teams that the undershirt rule would be enforced, forcing all players to conform.

It just sets the tone of, "We're in charge of the rules guys, we're watching you, we pay attention, we don't ignore anything, including the color of equipment, and more importantly, unsporting acts".

Just my two cents. I haven't worked a game like this in a long, long time, so I could be way off on my assertation.

I'm so pleased that I don't work games like this anymore. No bleachers, so fans are right on the boundaries. Multiple gyms and multiple whistles. Back in the day, when I needed the money, and the experience, I worked these games, no more.

I would love to tell the loudmouth knucklehead, #24, and the horse that he rode in on, to tuck in his jersey.

Yeah, I know that I'm tilting at windmills here, but the video was really difficult for me to watch.

I would expect sportsmanship like this in an outdoor playground game, on an asphalt court, maybe half court, with metal chain nets, skins versus shirts, with no officials in sight, with kids just playing for the right to stay on the court for the "next game".

I would not expect sportsmanship like this inside a gym, on a real court, with real uniforms, with a scoreboard, with a scorekeeper, with coaches, and with three officials.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm fairly certain that it's not the officials who allow the players to wear illegal undershirts, it's most likely the host AAU organization (game management) that instructs the officials not to enforce the rule (maybe teams have reversible jerseys, and don't know in advance what color jersey, or undershirt, they'll be wearing from game to game). So I find fault with game management, not the officials.

If you are familiar with any AAU or travel-like tournaments, the point is to have kids play. There is no emphasis on having proper jerseys as stated in the NF or NCAA Rules in most of these events. It is not totally unusual to get numbers that are higher than 5 sometimes as well. Honestly, no one cares about these rules other than a state or NCAA when they are playing their particular contests. So even trying to put some standard that no one cares about is rather silly if you understand the purpose of these tournaments. Most officials in "real" games do not care, so why would some off-season tournament that does not even influence someone's career in a positive or negative way by doing these games?

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