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Old Thu Mar 08, 2018, 05:36pm
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Taking a closed book test is not going to solve that problem if you ask questions about the diameter of the division line instead of questions that actually could be faced in a game.

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I'm scrambling for my books to see what the diameter of a division line should be!
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2018, 07:28pm
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I'm scrambling for my books to see what the diameter of a division line should be!
If you take a closed book test, you might not know the answer.

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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 01:58am
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If you take a closed book test, you might not know the answer.

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Do tell me what the diameter of a straight line is, even if you use your book.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 08:41am
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Do tell me what the diameter of a straight line is, even if you use your book.
You realize that it was sarcasm right? You realize that I have been saying for years how silly rules tests are for years? You realize that I took the NF test (first time in probably 15 years or so) this year for the first time and they asked about 10-15 questions about measurements from the ball. Of course, there is no diameter of a line, but who cares what it has to be if you come to a court. Are you going to not play the game if you have a line that does not fit the requirements? Heck, what if you do not have a shadow line? Are you suspending the game? So why do people put so much stock in these test when clearly in this situation the officials did not know a rule that actually might be applicable?

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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 11:21am
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You realize that it was sarcasm right? You realize that I have been saying for years how silly rules tests are for years? You realize that I took the NF test (first time in probably 15 years or so) this year for the first time and they asked about 10-15 questions about measurements from the ball. Of course, there is no diameter of a line, but who cares what it has to be if you come to a court. Are you going to not play the game if you have a line that does not fit the requirements? Heck, what if you do not have a shadow line? Are you suspending the game? So why do people put so much stock in these test when clearly in this situation the officials did not know a rule that actually might be applicable?

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Yet if you don't depend on a test, even if SOME of the questions are irrelevant, you're almost guaranteed to have poor rule knowledge across a large part of the population, particularly upon those that poo-poo the tests.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 11:43am
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On most current clocks the horn sounds at 0.0 that would mean if the clock was stopped at showed 0.1 then the time would be somewhere greater than 0.0 but less than or equal to 0.1 therefore if the clock shows 0.3 the time would be somewhere from greater than 0.2 to less than or equal to 0.3 In short it would be 0.3 or less which in turn matches up with the wording of the rule. If the clock didn't work like this then it would be a full tenth after 0.0 was displayed until the horn.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 11:53am
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Seems like the only logical solution is to just do things the way they have been done. Carry on.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 12:25pm
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On most current clocks the horn sounds at 0.0 that would mean if the clock was stopped at showed 0.1 then the time would be somewhere greater than 0.0 but less than or equal to 0.1 therefore if the clock shows 0.3 the time would be somewhere from greater than 0.2 to less than or equal to 0.3 In short it would be 0.3 or less which in turn matches up with the wording of the rule. If the clock didn't work like this then it would be a full tenth after 0.0 was displayed until the horn.
There is.

That's why there are cases (at least in some codes) where the clock shows 0:00.0 but the horn / lights haven't gone off / on.
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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 12:10pm
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Yet if you don't depend on a test, even if SOME of the questions are irrelevant, you're almost guaranteed to have poor rule knowledge across a large part of the population, particularly upon those that poo-poo the tests.
I look at the test the same way others look at what you say in the pre-game. Neither is the save all of these kinds of situation.

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Old Fri Mar 09, 2018, 12:41pm
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I look at the test the same way others look at what you say in the pre-game. Neither is the save all of these kinds of situation.

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I don't think anyone disagrees with you on that. And I don't think Camron ever implied such.

I live in a state where the rules exam is a huge deal, to the extent that it pretty much determines the rating order. It's ridiculous, but I acknowledge that we can't scrap testing completely, otherwise you're likely to have rules kicked such as this one on a big stage even more often.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2018, 07:35pm
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I'm scrambling for my books to see what the diameter of a division line should be!
Not fair. Trick question.

The division line isn't a circle and doesn't have a diameter, it has a length, and a width.
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