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Old Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:15pm
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Was this contact dead ball technical foul handled / called correctly? The audio isn't synced perfectly with the video, so don't go by that for the sound of the whistle. This is the scenario: Coppin player (#1) gets an offensive rebound and is fouled shooting the putback. After the whistle, Bethune Cookman #2 swings and connects to the mouth of a Coppin player (#22), knocking him down, and drawing blood. For a long time, it appeared they weren't going to do a monitor review. They eventually did. The monitor review portion isn't in the video, but, upon review, they called a common shooting foul on Bethune and a contact dead ball technical foul on Bethune. #21 Coppin was the player selected to shoot the technical free throws. Was all this handled/administered/called correctly? Thanks.
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Old Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:47pm
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I may be going off of old knowledge because I thought they did away with the CDBT definition and replaced it with something else. Under the old CDBT penalties as I knew them, order of occurrence superseded point of interruption (just as it does for F2 techs). So in this case, I think they got the FT sequence correct, but then gave the ball OOB to the wrong team at the wrong spot.

Again, Iím basing this off of what I know would have been correct last year. Not sure if it still is this year.


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Old Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:59pm
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Tech for the dead ball contact is correct. Shoot the original shooting foul first, then shoot the tech, any player may shoot. Offended team gets the ball at the division line either side.
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:37pm
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Another classic example of "I-got-a-foul-so-I-will-hold-my-fist-in-the-air-for-a-long-time-lest-I-forget."
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:42pm
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Another classic example of "I-got-a-foul-so-I-will-hold-my-fist-in-the-air-for-a-long-time-lest-I-forget."
More like "this-could-get-ugly-quickly-so-I'm-concentrating-on-players-and-possible-retaliation-so-putting-my-arm-down-is-about-17th-on-my-prioritiy-list-at-the-moment."
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Old Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:46pm
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Another classic example of "I-got-a-foul-so-I-will-hold-my-fist-in-the-air-for-a-long-time-lest-I-forget."
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More like "this-could-get-ugly-quickly-so-I'm-concentrating-on-players-and-possible-retaliation-so-putting-my-arm-down-is-about-17th-on-my-prioritiy-list-at-the-moment."
I will sometimes hold my signal up longer during such situations to remind everyone that there is foul that still needs to be addressed.

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Old Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:10pm
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Eventually My Arm Gets Tired ...

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More like "this-could-get-ugly-quickly-so-I'm-concentrating-on-players-and-possible-retaliation-so-putting-my-arm-down-is-about-17th-on-my-prioritiy-list-at-the-moment."
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I will sometimes hold my signal up longer during such situations to remind everyone that there is foul that still needs to be addressed.
And sometimes I just have more on my mind than remembering to bring down my arm; checking for a double whistle, identifying fouler, identifying foulee, preventing a possible altercation, checking for a possible injury, checking with my partner to see if the shot went in, etc.
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