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[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by RefRich

No argument with that and I don't believe asking the question is even needed. Ether they are or they aren't and that question will not correct the behavior.

Can't you equate that to checking the book at around 12 minutes to give time to correct any mistakes? Even if you don't check early, just like not asking about the legality of the uniforms, the penalty is the same.

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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Can't you equate that to checking the book at around 12 minutes to give time to correct any mistakes? Even if you don't check early, just like not asking about the legality of the uniforms, the penalty is the same.

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It would be the equivalent if we were checking the uniforms instead of asking about them. We don't check the book by asking the coach if his roster has been correctly entered into the scorebook and if the starters are marked.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Raymond

It would be the equivalent if were checking the uniforms instead of asking about them.

Fine. But the point is the same... It's not a bad idea to be proactive.

Honestly, I personally don't even ask anymore. But I'm not going to come down on those that do or work in places where it's required.

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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Fine. But the point is the same... It's not a bad idea to be proactive.

Honestly, I personally don't even ask anymore. But I'm not going to come down on those that do or work in places where it's required.

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I'm coming down on the state, not the officials. We don't know if players are properly equipped until we visually inspect the players. Asking a coach doesn't change or influence the enforcement. And the only technical fouls are for illegal numbers and not wearing white@home/dark@road. So if his team is wearing a bunch of illegal t-shirts the only penalty is they can't participate until they remove the t-shirts.

Originally Posted by Raymond

Asking a coach doesn't change or influence the enforcement.

Unfortunately a lot of officials in my state think that if we don't ask, we can't enforce.

Of course they believe a lot of other things too. Like how referees are 'supposed' to stay opposite the table during the national anthem, lineups, etc. Which the mechanics manual alludes to during the pre-game warmup, but does not specify where officials should stand after the warmup.

[LRZ]

A curiosity, fwiw: I work two state-certified sports, basketball and soccer, with a mandated pre-game statement that must be read verbatim.

For basketball, that statement includes, in part, this sentence: "Coaches, please certify to the contest officials that your contestants are legally equipped and uniformed according to NFHS rules and PIAA adoptions."

For soccer, that sentence reads, "Coaches, please certify to the officials that your contestants will be legally equipped and uniformed according to NFHS rules and PIAA adoptions at the kickoff."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by LRZ

A curiosity, fwiw: I work two state-certified sports, basketball and soccer, with a mandated pre-game statement that must be read verbatim.

For basketball, that statement includes, in part, this sentence: "Coaches, please certify to the contest officials that your contestants are legally equipped and uniformed according to NFHS rules and PIAA adoptions."

For soccer, that sentence reads, "Coaches, please certify to the officials that your contestants will be legally equipped and uniformed according to NFHS rules and PIAA adoptions at the kickoff."

Do these statements release game officials from any equipment related injury liability?

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