Fouling bad ft shooter away from ball

[Raymond]

I think Mr. Freeman does an excellent job of fouling as part of normal defensive maneuvers. None of those are F1's IMO.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I think Mr. Freeman does an excellent job of fouling as part of normal defensive maneuvers. None of those are F1's IMO.

Agree....all of them are well disguised. You could easily argue that each of them was a legitimate defensive play that you'd see throughout the game.

It is only the connection between them all that would lead you to suspect they were deliberate.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I think Mr. Freeman does an excellent job of fouling as part of normal defensive maneuvers. None of those are F1's IMO.

I would agree that the player did an excellent job of following the coaches instruction. Also, I think calling an F1 would be tough based on how he played the KU player. However, is this unsporting on Oklahoma's part? They are clearly trying to circumvent a rule. I don't think that what they are doing is in any way in accordance with the spirit of the rule.

Somewhat similar to a post within the last week about a team that was down intentionally turning the ball over and giving up layups. Nothing in the rules specifically prevents it, but its not in the spirit of the game. I realize these two situations are vastly different, but my point is that one team is clearly doing something that is "not basketball." Probably a bigger issue than what could be fixed within a single game though.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Agree....all of them are well disguised. You could easily argue that each of them was a legitimate defensive play that you'd see throughout the game.

It is only the connection between them all that would lead you to suspect they were deliberate.

Absolutely. And this is why it would be tough to penalize with an F1, but is some sort of unsporting T justifiable?

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Absolutely. And this is why it would be tough to penalize with an F1, but is some sort of unsporting T justifiable?

Dear God, NO! Where are you going to go next? T up the team the second time they foul on the ball at the end of the game because you know they really aren't doing anything other than trying to foul and its unsporting? You either have an FF1/intentional or you've got nothing.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Absolutely. And this is why it would be tough to penalize with an F1, but is some sort of unsporting T justifiable?

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Dear God, NO! Where are you going to go next? T up the team the second time they foul on the ball at the end of the game because you know they really aren't doing anything other than trying to foul and its unsporting? You either have an FF1/intentional or you've got nothing.

Agree with so cal......not going to a T for this. While it very well may be designed to stop the clock and put a bad shooter on the line, it is also a legitimate defensive play that you could see at any time in any game. There is some chance, albeit small, that the player actually was playing defense and just fouled.