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[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A little twist to make it more interesting. Something that I've never seen happen, and probably never will see it happen, but it can.

A1 dribbles and unexpectedly, for whatever reason (sees his girlfriend in the stands), ends is dribble. A2 runs toward A1 and touches the ball. A1 starts to dribble. You make the call.

Applying Rule 9-5:

1. Not a try for a field goal,
2. Not a touch by an opponent,
3. Not a pass or fumble that has touched, or has been touched by, another player.

Illegal (double) dribble.

[LRZ]

It's not even "lost control because of."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Illegal (double) dribble.

Originally Posted by LRZ

It's not even "lost control because of."

Exactly as I would rule the first time that I see it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Exactly as I would rule the first time that I see it.

Why even bring up the question when you already posted the rule that said it had to be a touch by an opponent?

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Why even bring up the question when you already posted the rule that said it had to be a touch by an opponent?

While a simple touch by an opponent would allow a new dribble, the same touch by a teammate would not allow a new dribble; it would have to be a pass or fumble that was touched by a teammate.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

While a simple touch by an opponent would allow a new dribble, the same touch by a teammate would not allow a new dribble; it would have to be a pass or fumble that was touched by a teammate.

Exactly, and the rule you posted said it had to be a touch by an opponent.

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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

While a simple touch by an opponent would allow a new dribble, the same touch by a teammate would not allow a new dribble; it would have to be a pass or fumble that was touched by a teammate.

If a player is holding the ball and it is touched by the opponent, are you saying that alone means he can start a new dribble?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If a player is holding the ball and it is touched by the opponent, are you saying that alone means he can start a new dribble?

By the written rule, yes I am.

9-5 Illegal Dribble: A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

But I'm open to other interpretations (this is why I posted this situation).