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#2) I went back and looked at the video again, and you're right, this is more egregious than I first thought. The replay angles don't show it well, but the live angle at the very beginning of the clip was telling. B34's shirt was pulled at a 30° angle. Yeah, that's probably not a hold one should pass on. Still a common foul, though. |
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Intent doesn't matter a whit to me. I look at mode of contact (elbow) and location of contact (head and neck area), and whether the contact is excessive/unnecessary or excessive and also severe/extreme.
For me, this contact is excessive and severe. Therefore, Flagrant 2. I have a Flagrant 1 for the jersey pull. |
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I know Lamont and one thought that comes to my mind is that he has officiated and officiates so many levels. His words may have been inexact due to wording used in other areas, like the WNBA for example. Not saying he is correct/incorrect, just adding that crosstalk among many levels (WNBA, NBA, NCAA, FIBA, NFHS, etc.) can get mixed.
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So you’re saying this is not a Flagrant 1 foul? The first of those bolded items you called out refers to a Flagrant 1.
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Teddy was right there, not sure why he passed on the jersey hold. had he immediately called an FF1 for that, there may have been no escalation. Duke player, being held, simply tried to swipe away holding hand without looking back, and inadvertently (IMO) hit the MSU player... above the shoulders. Ball was at mid-court. Teddy allowed play to continue. Now, at dead ball, they review.
Many have offered their opinion. I would have just went with double F1's. (I noticed, at 1:58, that JD (looks like him) is at the table.)
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You said it was “none of those bolded items”. And the first part of the section you bolded was the Flagrant 1 language, the second part was the Flagrant 2 language. Thus, “none of those bolded items” means neither Flagrant 1 nor Flagrant 2. Just wanted to clear that up.
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