Duke v Mich State

[rockyroad]

Does the jersey grab (an Int foul in NFHS) also count as an FF1 in NCAA?? If so, why not double foul call here?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Does the jersey grab (an Int foul in NFHS) also count as an FF1 in NCAA?? If so, why not double foul call here?

A jersey grab isn't automatically an intentional foul in NFHS. Usually it's a common foul for holding. It, along with any other type of contact foul, is intentional in NFHS if it meets the parameters of such.

As to the subject of whether you could call a double personal foul here....sure, you could. But, I'd probably be passing on the marginal jersey hold and then get surprised by the elbow. I'd be reluctant, at that point, to re-evaluate the hold as something more than marginal just because of how the other guy reacted. I want to get the big foul here.

If the two fouls were a little more bang-bang, then maybe DPF makes sense. Otherwise I'm probably not calling it that way. I like to save my DPFs for those few times in a season where they really stand out as a good use of a tool. This wouldn't be one of those times, IMHO.

[hamnegger]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Meh. It’s not like he wound up and slammed him. Did you see that little, “oops, crap I hit his head” look on his face? F1.

Wrong guy shot FTs, ball was inbounded 47 feet from where it should have been, and now the offender is only one vice two Ts from ejection. It’s really bad to kick a rule at this level; it’s even worse to make up a new type of foul on the fly. That was a big oops. Shouldn’t have happened.


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The NCAA Women's rules i know allow for ANY player to shoot the 2 free throws so the "the wrong guy" could not be shooting if it same in mens. Also it is a division line throw in in NCAAW. Again not sure of mens.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by hamnegger

The NCAA Women's rules i know allow for ANY player to shoot the 2 free throws so the "the wrong guy" could not be shooting if it same in mens. Also it is a division line throw in in NCAAW. Again not sure of mens.

The men did not adopt those changes.