Last Night

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bucky

That is what I was thinking about your line of questioning, that you are trying to make some distinction. Not sure where you are going with it.

Anyway...

Yes, there is a distinction imo. I grab is a conscious closing of the hand around something, like a wrist, jersey, etc. It can't be accidental. Are all holds grabs? No. Are all grabs hold? Yes. Some holds are too difficult to consider intentional. If someone grabs a jersey though, then it seems obvious, not only what they were doing, but also there intent. Looks as if it comes down to semantics again. Shocker.

Just my opinion.

Jerseys get grabbed accidentally all the time: more often than intentionally, IMO.

Defender reaches for the ball, trying to grab it, and misses. Whether he hits a jersey or a wrist, the natural instinct of the fingers is to grab. This is not an intentional act.

Many jersey grabs are certainly intentional: but not all. I'd say not even most.