Last Night

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I guess it depends on your definition. As i said above, i think most fouls are done purposely. Cited some examples. If you are going by me i might stick an arm out, if i then grab your jersey i think im doing it in desperation. I dont think its an accident. We dont call it an intentional foul all the time but i disagree that jersey grabs are more accidental than on purpose.

I don't think most fouls are done on purpose, I think they're done out of intentional negligence at most. I try to steal the ball or block a shot but know full well I may foul you in the process.
I reach out to slap the ball and hit your arm instead.

Arm bars and hand checks are different, but even then they tend to be instinctual (bad habits and poor coaching) rather than intentional.

I see your point, though, and think I'm picking nits.

Maybe we should call them "premeditated fouls" instead.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't think most fouls are done on purpose, I think they're done out of intentional negligence at most. I try to steal the ball or block a shot but know full well I may foul you in the process.
I reach out to slap the ball and hit your arm instead.

Arm bars and hand checks are different, but even then they tend to be instinctual (bad habits and poor coaching) rather than intentional.

I see your point, though, and think I'm picking nits.

Maybe we should call them "premeditated fouls" instead.

Lets just call it pornography...we know intentional when we see it. Just because A1 meant to whack B1 on the arm doesnt make it intentional. There is more than "intent" to be considered when calling intentional foul....". I have mentioned im a rocket scientist...yes?