Last Night

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bucky

Seems like an oxymoron to me. Accidentally hit a face/neck? Yes, it is possible. Grab someone's face/neck? Must be intentional.

Maybe I am getting caught in semantics but just my opinion if going by literal words.

So is every hold an intentional foul?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by CJP

I am sorry. I didn't think it was "bashing". I think it is a legitimate observation and should be talked about. Maybe I could have chosen different words to describe my perception of the game. I think guys could learn from what they seen last night. Discussing plays is okay, I think. Maybe it is too taboo on this site, but discussing game management should be equally as important. In this case there is no getting around being critical of the crew last night. But I digress, this is all I will say about the situation.

Do you have specific plays and how you would have handled them differently?

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Do you have specific plays and how you would have handled them differently?

Not directed at me, but I will jump in and answer.

12:15 to go in 2nd half. Williams-Goss drives, takes 4 steps, and initiates all the contact on Pinson. The foul was called on Pinson. Why? Travel should have been called at step 3 if not step 4.

About :50 to go in the game. Meeks gets on the ground for the loose ball. His whole hand is out of bounds while ball is on his legs. Ref is right there. No call. Why?

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

Not directed at me, but I will jump in and answer.

12:15 to go in 2nd half. Williams-Goss drives, takes 4 steps, and initiates all the contact on Pinson. The foul was called on Pinson. Why? Travel should have been called at step 3 if not step 4.

About :50 to go in the game. Meeks gets on the ground for the loose ball. His whole hand is out of bounds while ball is on his legs. Ref is right there. No call. Why?

We all miss calls. These guys are just under a lot more scrutiny. One missed OOB call does not define a game. Given the physicality of the game, missing one going to the floor is minor.

It was a physical game and they maintenance control. The teams played consistent and the officiating was consistent. Isn't that what coaches want? Consistency...

[Adam]

This is the last I'm going to say about it.

Saying they missed a travel is discussing a play.
Saying "that was pretty poor last night" is criticizing the crew.

Saying they missed the OOB call is discussing a play.
Saying "That was bad, inconsistent officiating last night" is criticizing the crew.

My comments on the use of "ticky-tack" were not from a moderator perspective, so they should have been included in a different post. I stand by the opinion, but it's a separate issue.

While I appreciate your opinion, this part of the public discussion is over. Feel free to PM me if you want.

Final note: I'm open to further discussing this privately, but not in public. Keep the discussion about the plays.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Adam

This is the last I'm going to say about it.

Saying they missed a travel is discussing a play.
Saying "that was pretty poor last night" is criticizing the crew.

Saying they missed the OOB call is discussing a play.
Saying "That was bad, inconsistent officiating last night" is criticizing the crew.

My comments on the use of "ticky-tack" were not from a moderator perspective, so they should have been included in a different post. I stand by the opinion, but it's a separate issue.

While I appreciate your opinion, this part of the public discussion is over. Feel free to PM me if you want.

Final note: I'm open to further discussing this privately, but not in public. Keep the discussion about the plays.

One main reason I love this forum is we show plays and we have different opinions on how it should have been officiated.

I will never do a final or 1k college mens games. I cant say that I understand what they are calling or not calling and cant judge it.

I can look at plays and think how I would call similar situations.

On that note I dont want to hear your opinion about the crew last night especially if its negative. I want to come here and hear your thoughts on why you would officiating plays differently.

If the highly paid Adam says its getting too negative then it is. And you should listen or leave the forum. It isnt helping anyone. Clearly you can PM him so we can get back to discussing plays.

Thanks!