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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:52pm
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I am not asking for it. The kid would have played and none of this would have happened. No one would have mentioned it just like no one mentioned illegal headbands in the state championship game shown on the other thread.

The fact is that there is a religious exception for covering a players head. I am not going to ask someone to prove their religion. That is just me.
You aren't asking them to prove their religion. You're asking them to prove they followed the rules which any decent coach would've done the second he knew he had a player wearing a head covering.

I'll admit this -- I would've likely made a phone call during warmups.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:24pm
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You aren't asking them to prove their religion. You're asking them to prove they followed the rules which any decent coach would've done the second he knew he had a player wearing a head covering.

I'll admit this -- I would've likely made a phone call during warmups.
I will put myself in those shoes and the phone call would go something like this. "I have a player wearing a hijab. I asked the coach to produce a waiver and said she played all year without one. The coach also said she does not play much varsity". The official on the phone would hopefully say something like "We should not punish the kid. Being she does not play much anyway, lets not make a big deal about this. If she sees the floor, no problem, let her play. If they win we will get her the waiver before the next game. If they lose remind the coach that she should get the waiver next year." According to the news paper I would not be far off on this.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:27pm
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You aren't asking them to prove their religion. You're asking them to prove they followed the rules which any decent coach would've done the second he knew he had a player wearing a head covering.

I'll admit this -- I would've likely made a phone call during warmups.
Hadn't thought of it (probably because I'm studying for series 7 right now), but I like that better than my idea.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:29pm
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Hadn't thought of it (probably because I'm studying for series 7 right now), but I like that better than my idea.
No guarantee that I'd get the right person on the other end of the phone, either. In which case, I'd simply follow the rule.

"Do you have a waiver from the state office?" The answer to that question would guide my next decision.

We had a player in a hijab this year. The coach BROUGHT ME the waiver.

I feel for the officials who are being ridiculed for doing what they're supposed to do -- follow the rules.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:31pm
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No guarantee that I'd get the right person on the other end of the phone, either. In which case, I'd simply follow the rule.

"Do you have a waiver from the state office?" The answer to that question would guide my next decision.

We had a player in a hijab this year. The coach BROUGHT ME the waiver.

I feel for the officials who are being ridiculed for doing what they're supposed to do -- follow the rules.
Had a player with a medical device (at least thats what i think it was) and the team had a waiver that stipulated it had to be taped over.

Anyone else, like CJP, is just making excuses. If you don't want to do it, that's fine, I don't care, don't justify it with straw men arguments.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:57pm
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Had a player with a medical device (at least thats what i think it was) and the team had a waiver that stipulated it had to be taped over.

Anyone else, like CJP, is just making excuses. If you don't want to do it, that's fine, I don't care, don't justify it with straw men arguments.
No waiver needed for medical alert or religious medal. Nice strawman though. lol
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 04:18pm
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No waiver needed for medical alert or religious medal. Nice strawman though. lol
If you are an official I would say your association needs to train you better. I'm guessing you are not. Your reading comprehension is awful. Medical alert is NOT a medical device. Even these need to be taped up.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 04:43pm
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If you are an official I would say your association needs to train you better. I'm guessing you are not. Your reading comprehension is awful. Medical alert is NOT a medical device. Even these need to be taped up.
My reading comprehension is awful? You brought up the waiver you were presented and didn't know what it was for.
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No waiver needed for medical alert or religious medal. Nice strawman though. lol
But tape required, lol.
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Old Wed Mar 15, 2017, 04:46pm
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But tape required, lol.
So.. I would not have asked a kid for a waiver for something that just needs to be covered up by tape.
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