Backcourt Violation or Not?

[Freddy]

Rule 4-4-6: "During a dribble from backcourt to frontcourt, the ball is in the frontcourt when the ball and both feet of the dribbler touch the court entirely in the frontcourt."
Does that rule, in and of itself, mean that the play in this clip should not have been ruled a backcourt violation?
Does the Three Point Principle Prevail or Not?
(Sorry for the less-than-ideal quality of the clip...)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Rule 4-4-6: "During a dribble from backcourt to frontcourt, the ball is in the frontcourt when the ball and both feet of the dribbler touch the court entirely in the frontcourt."
Does that rule, in and of itself, mean that the play in this clip should not have been ruled a backcourt violation?
Does the Three Point Principle Prevail or Not?
(Sorry for the less-than-ideal quality of the clip...)

Looks to me as if she Ends dribble with both feet in FC. Passes to BC. Teammate catches. Last and first. Violation. If she's truly dribbling the ball with hand on top and doesn't end it and ball goes over to teammate you say it never gain d FC status. No violation.,

[HokiePaul]

When she picks up the ball to throw the pass, the dribble has ended. At that point, she either has both feet in the frontcourt or one foot in the frontcourt and one foot on the line (backcourt). Video is inconclusive in my opinion but that would be the determining factor.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

When she picks up the ball to throw the pass, the dribble has ended. At that point, she either has both feet in the frontcourt or one foot in the frontcourt and one foot on the line (backcourt). Video is inconclusive in my opinion but that would be the determining factor.

I think looking at it again other foot is in air. Still gives FC status. Dribble rule isn't a factor for me. I think she ends dribble so her location at that moment is key. 3 points doesn't apply.

[bucky]

In my opinion, she never has both feet in front court while dribbling/controlling the ball, thus ball never gains front court status. Ergo, no violation. Someone indicated foot in air, still gives FC status. Maybe for player but not the ball, and ball has to have FC status for a BC violation.

Yes, tough to really make good judgement with low-quality video.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bucky

In my opinion, she never has both feet in front court while dribbling/controlling the ball, thus ball never gains front court status. Ergo, no violation. Someone indicated foot in air, still gives FC status. Maybe for player but not the ball, and ball has to have FC status for a BC violation.



Yes, tough to really make good judgement with low-quality video.

3 points only applies on a dribble. If she's holding the ball and the only part touching is in the frontcourt, the ball has frontcourt status.

[Rich]

She ended the dribble when she passed the ball. Definitions matter.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Rich

She ended the dribble when she passed the ball. Definitions matter.

Yes, they do. And if you look at the rule about when a dribble ends, 4-15-4, there are 5 different ways the dribble can end. Passing the ball is not one of them, and none of the criteria listed are met in this video.

[Rich]

I disagree. She did more than push the ball in that direction.

We'll disagree, I guess, but now it's a matter of judgment.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Which of the 5 criteria in the book would you say were met in order to determine that she ended her dribble?

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Which of the 5 criteria in the book would you say were met in order to determine that she ended her dribble?

What's the 5th?

Originally Posted by AremRed

What's the 5th?

Bump.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Bump.

I think the dribble ends when time expires.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Which of the 5 criteria in the book would you say were met in order to determine that she ended her dribble?

I'd say the common sense one where she didn't dribble again.

[Rich]

Comes to rest in one hand, albeit very briefly.