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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:00pm
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Thoughts on this travel call

I don't know how to imbed video and this is from a Twitter account......

I don't know if that can be imbeded for all to view but...

https://twitter.com/Ray_Law12/status/822271510052225024


Would like to hear the feedback on this call.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:36pm
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He traveled twice.

The player caught the ball with his left foot on the floor and jumped off that foot. To be legal, both feet needed to land at the same time -- they didn't.

If that was "too close" to call, then the above would be judged legal, but now neither foot can be the pivot foot. When the left foot is lifted before the ball is released on the dribble -- that's a travel.
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It's a travel. Actually, it's two travels in one.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:41pm
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I was reading some comments about it and most felt it wasn't a travel. Admittedly, As I watched in real time, it was difficult for me to catch the left foot becoming the pivot foot. As a slowed it down and replayed it, I thought that was the case and then he took RF, LF steps.
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I got him traveling once clearly in live time. I do not know about the second time, but I stopped trying to pay attention after the first move.

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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 04:57pm
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Left foot pivot foot, travel. Count how many steps he takes before actually releasing the dribble and you have another reason to call a violation. Good call.
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Left foot pivot foot, travel. Count how many steps he takes before actually releasing the dribble and you have another reason to call a violation. Good call.
Good officials don't count steps.
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Left foot pivot foot, travel. Count how many steps he takes before actually releasing the dribble and you have another reason to call a violation. Good call.
Correct, if not for the wrong reason. Step-counters generally make more mistakes on travel calls. It's not about steps. It's about establishing a pivot foot (or disallowing yourself one, like after a jump stop) and what they can or cannot do once that happens.
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Good officials don't count steps.
Rich types faster than me, and makes his points more succinctly.
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Old Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:08pm
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Well if it is not big enough, there is a "full screen" button in the corner

Here is the video slowed down.



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I was reading some comments about it and most felt it wasn't a travel.
Most what felt it wasn't a travel - coaches?
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 07:48am
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I am ok with a travel call here as most have said there are multiple opportunities to make the call on this one play. As someone who calls more travels than most of my peers I appreciate this get.

Now the only mitigating factors are the manner in which the game was officiated all along. I know a lot of high school officials who aren't calling those catches or take offs consistently or at all. If you've gotten it all game, go ahead and get it again. If you only got it because its late in the game that is a problem. If the standard for footwork is not set early and consistently getting this in this situation could be problematic.
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Old Wed Jan 25, 2017, 09:17am
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Good officials don't count steps.
Correct. Which is why I used the terminology in the rule book at the beginning of my post. The steps comment is for the fellas on here that like to come in and complain about officials, dont know the rulebook, and scream 3 seconds during every rebounding action.
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I am ok with a travel call here as most have said there are multiple opportunities to make the call on this one play. As someone who calls more travels than most of my peers I appreciate this get.

Now the only mitigating factors are the manner in which the game was officiated all along. I know a lot of high school officials who aren't calling those catches or take offs consistently or at all. If you've gotten it all game, go ahead and get it again. If you only got it because its late in the game that is a problem. If the standard for footwork is not set early and consistently getting this in this situation could be problematic.
To Hugh...they were fans at the game. I don't drop any stock in that, one of them was a friend of mine asking about it...I chimed in and reviewed it for my own learning. It's the correct call.

Panther - It was whistled with 4.3 left in a tight game. I wasn't there but some of the comments were around the time of the call. Not sure how it was officiated all game as I wasn't there. I'm sure those in disagreement were parent/fans of that team who ended up losing.

Appreciate the feedback guys! Good ongoing study video if you ask me as it was a pretty quick play.
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I got him traveling once clearly in live time. I do not know about the second time, but I stopped trying to pay attention after the first move.

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I have one travel, when he replants his left foot after the jump stop.

But that travel is clear enough for a whistle.
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