Thoughts on this travel call

[JRutledge]

I got him traveling once clearly in live time. I do not know about the second time, but I stopped trying to pay attention after the first move.

Peace

[UNIgiantslayers]

Left foot pivot foot, travel. Count how many steps he takes before actually releasing the dribble and you have another reason to call a violation. Good call.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Left foot pivot foot, travel. Count how many steps he takes before actually releasing the dribble and you have another reason to call a violation. Good call.

Good officials don't count steps.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich

Good officials don't count steps.

Rich types faster than me, and makes his points more succinctly.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by Rich

Good officials don't count steps.

Correct. Which is why I used the terminology in the rule book at the beginning of my post. The steps comment is for the fellas on here that like to come in and complain about officials, dont know the rulebook, and scream 3 seconds during every rebounding action.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Left foot pivot foot, travel. Count how many steps he takes before actually releasing the dribble and you have another reason to call a violation. Good call.

Correct, if not for the wrong reason. Step-counters generally make more mistakes on travel calls. It's not about steps. It's about establishing a pivot foot (or disallowing yourself one, like after a jump stop) and what they can or cannot do once that happens.

[JRutledge]

Here is the video slowed down.



Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I got him traveling once clearly in live time. I do not know about the second time, but I stopped trying to pay attention after the first move.

Peace

I have one travel, when he replants his left foot after the jump stop.

But that travel is clear enough for a whistle.

[BigCat]

He has ball and jumps off left leg and either doesn't land simultaneously or both feet do touch at same time but left leg slides back right away when he has no pivot foot. Travel either way.

Since he had the ball and jump stopped off one leg, he's not got a pivot. he has to release ball on dribble before picking either leg up.

If you forget the jump stop and first travel, say he's just a player with the ball on the wing with a pivot foot….his takeoff would be ok i think. (already forgot the video..)

[HokiePaul]

It's a correct call.

Only possible complaint I could see here is if the officials had been passing on this call all game but decided to call in at a critical point in the game. Or if only one of the officials was identifying these plays as travels and the others were not.

[Da Official]

Established left foot as pivot, then picked up pivot and put it back down before shooting. Easy travel call..that created a space advantage...that we need to get at any point in the game.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Da Official

Established left foot as pivot, then picked up pivot and put it back down before shooting. Easy travel call..that created a space advantage...that we need to get at any point in the game.

You may know this, just to clarify…the left foot was not "established" as the pivot foot. player caught ball with left foot on floor and right up in air. He is allowed to hop off of that left foot and land simultaneously then on both. When he does neither foot can be a pivot.

Had he put the right one on the floor right after the left, then left would have been established. The hop off one foot is legal if you do it right. you probably know that.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by BigCat

You may know this, just to clarify…the left foot was not "established" as the pivot foot. player caught ball with left foot on floor and right up in air. He is allowed to hop off of that left foot and land simultaneously then on both. When he does neither foot can be a pivot.

Had he put the right one on the floor right after the left, then left would have been established. The hop off one foot is legal if you do it right. you probably know that.

So you are saying you can do a jump stop without dribbling!? If the left foot comes down first it is the pivot. He jumps off that left foot and lands with two with no dribble. I got one of these in my game last night, the kid tried to do a step back jumper without dribbling, he just hopped back and shot. That is what this kid is doing except he starts a dribble rather than shooting.

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by BigCat

You may know this, just to clarify…the left foot was not "established" as the pivot foot. player caught ball with left foot on floor and right up in air. He is allowed to hop off of that left foot and land simultaneously then on both. When he does neither foot can be a pivot.

Had he put the right one on the floor right after the left, then left would have been established. The hop off one foot is legal if you do it right. you probably know that.

Good point!