T Worthy?

[chymechowder]

Somewhat along those lines, what advice do you have for responding to a coach who repeatedly comments to you about your partner's calls?

I'll be in front of the coach during play and he'll say stuff like "I know that's not your call but you gotta help your partner out." OR "Cmon, PLEASE talk to your partner!"

I usually just ignore it, because it's not like he's asking me a legitimate question.

Not sure if it's a divide & conquer strategy? Like the coach will suck up to one official while putting down the other? (NOTE: I"m SURE there have been times when it was reversed and I was the lead and a coach was complaining to my partner about me)

Should it just be flat-out ignored?

[Welpe]

I wouldn't T for this, I wouldn't even warn the fouling team's coach. I'd let him know that was not the case and then I'd let Team A's coach know that I need him to let me make the calls.

No need to nuke it from orbit at this point.

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Somewhat along those lines, what advice do you have for responding to a coach who repeatedly comments to you about your partner's calls?

I'll be in front of the coach during play and he'll say stuff like "I know that's not your call but you gotta help your partner out." OR "Cmon, PLEASE talk to your partner!"

I usually just ignore it, because it's not like he's asking me a legitimate question.

Not sure if it's a divide & conquer strategy? Like the coach will suck up to one official while putting down the other? (NOTE: I"m SURE there have been times when it was reversed and I was the lead and a coach was complaining to my partner about me)

Should it just be flat-out ignored?

*This is an interesting question. Coaches have many tactics up their sleeve and that is one of them--the ole "divide and conquer" maneuver (getting you to oppose/question your partner), the non-verbal "whaaat?" look, pre-arranged placement of confederates in the stands to taunt/deride you on calls, etc.
I heard at a camp once that a clinician said to tell coaches "when the other ref transitions/rotates back then ask him why he made that call". However, I found that advice to actually undermine the crew's unity and facilitate the bias that coaches want to impose, so I never used it. What I tell coaches is something to the effect of this: "the official got a good look at the play, and reported what he saw (or did not call what he did not see)".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Somewhat along those lines, what advice do you have for responding to a coach who repeatedly comments to you about your partner's calls?

I'll be in front of the coach during play and he'll say stuff like "I know that's not your call but you gotta help your partner out." OR "Cmon, PLEASE talk to your partner!"

I usually just ignore it, because it's not like he's asking me a legitimate question.

Not sure if it's a divide & conquer strategy? Like the coach will suck up to one official while putting down the other? (NOTE: I"m SURE there have been times when it was reversed and I was the lead and a coach was complaining to my partner about me)

Should it just be flat-out ignored?

I'd shut it down after the second time or so. "Coach, if you have a question for him, you'll need to talk to him about it."

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'd shut it down after the second time or so. "Coach, if you have a question for him, you'll need to talk to him about it."

Could always go with the smart aleck response: hey, assistant coach, help me out with your head coach here. PLEASE explain to him what I expect.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'd shut it down after the second time or so. "Coach, if you have a question for him, you'll need to talk to him about it."

+1 or I can't/don't speak for him you would have to ask him yourself.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

+1 or I can't/don't speak for him you would have to ask him yourself.

If I wanted to be snarky (and there's a good chance in this case), "Coach, we're all adults here, so you'll need to talk to him yourself."

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'd shut it down after the second time or so. "Coach, if you have a question for him, you'll need to talk to him about it."

I'm the center tableside and the coach is in my ear kvetching about a no call on the other side of the floor. Two officials over there on a play where my correct call percentage wouldn't be much better than if I flipped a coin.

"I have two partners over there who have a much better look at that play than we do. I'm not here to guess."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm the center tableside and the coach is in my ear kvetching about a no call on the other side of the floor. Two officials over there on a play where my correct call percentage wouldn't be much better than if I flipped a coin.

"I have two partners over there who have a much better look at that play than we do. I'm not here to guess."

I tell coaches "I'm way over here just like you, I don't know what happened over there"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm the center tableside and the coach is in my ear kvetching about a no call on the other side of the floor. Two officials over there on a play where my correct call percentage wouldn't be much better than if I flipped a coin.

"I have two partners over there who have a much better look at that play than we do. I'm not here to guess."

I tell coaches "I'm way over here just like you, I don't know what happened over there" or "I don't know how you saw that from here".

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I tell coaches "I'm way over here just like you, I don't know what happened over there" or "I don't know how you saw that from here".

The good coaches get it when you say that. The bad ones think you should run over there and "save the day."

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Somewhat along those lines, what advice do you have for responding to a coach who repeatedly comments to you about your partner's calls?

I'll be in front of the coach during play and he'll say stuff like "I know that's not your call but you gotta help your partner out." OR "Cmon, PLEASE talk to your partner!"

I usually just ignore it, because it's not like he's asking me a legitimate question.

Not sure if it's a divide & conquer strategy? Like the coach will suck up to one official while putting down the other? (NOTE: I"m SURE there have been times when it was reversed and I was the lead and a coach was complaining to my partner about me)

Should it just be flat-out ignored?

If he's saying it to you, I'd bet he's saying it to your partners too. At some point if it bothers you or your P's, you'll need to address it, It needs to be clear and the next time it happens you need to TCB. It's what some coaches do. They think it works in their favor somehow?? It's happened and I'll nip it right away with something along the lines of "We're not playing that game tonight" which will inevitably bring the reply, "What, I was just asking..." which will get a dirty look and stop sign from me. Now I have had the rare occasion when I felt the coach was right. Those are tougher IMO.