T Worthy?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

"I know you're faster, coach, but we actually have to be right."

Over the last 2 years I have adopted a more "honest" approach to coaches and I like this line. I had an awful game this past Friday that had about 40 or so fouls.

At some point in the third quarter the HC and one of his assistants said, after a foul, that I was calling a lot and to "let them play". I responded with a very sarcastic line "It was my plan when I left my family at 6PM to blow my whistle this much and officiate such a sloppily played game." I said this while looking at them both.

Would I recommend this line to other officials probably not. But shortly after that the HC complained, again, about a call in a game in which he team was up 40. I told him flat out that I'm done with him and my patience are gone for the remainder of the game. 2 minutes later I have a block charge call that goes against him 80 feet away, he yells something across the court for lowering the shoulder, I T move one, game ends like 4 hours later.

Out of curiosity do others on here get so fed up with a game, like a huge sloppy blowout that you remove all rope for the winning team and their complaining?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Over the last 2 years I have adopted a more "honest" approach to coaches and I like this line. I had an awful game this past Friday that had about 40 or so fouls.

At some point in the third quarter the HC and one of his assistants said, after a foul, that I was calling a lot and to "let them play". I responded with a very sarcastic line "It was my plan when I left my family at 6PM to blow my whistle this much and officiate such a sloppily played game." I said this while looking at them both.

Would I recommend this line to other officials probably not. But shortly after that the HC complained, again, about a call in a game in which he team was up 40. I told him flat out that I'm done with him and my patience are gone for the remainder of the game. 2 minutes later I have a block charge call that goes against him 80 feet away, he yells something across the court for lowering the shoulder, I T move one, game ends like 4 hours later.

Out of curiosity do others on here get so fed up with a game, like a huge sloppy blowout that you remove all rope for the winning team and their complaining?

I had a coach yell about a 3-second violation (one of 3 I called that season, I think) on one of his late game players when he was up 37.

Of course I was tableside C and was right in front of him. I looked at him, turned and looked at the scoreboard, and looked back at him again. Didn't say a word, might have shaken my head a little bit. Went to the other end of the floor.

Some coaches just can't turn it off. Head a story about a coach who went out of his way to get whacked up 35 earlier this season. Also heard the coach was proud of it, too.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

Over the last 2 years I have adopted a more "honest" approach to coaches and I like this line. I had an awful game this past Friday that had about 40 or so fouls.

At some point in the third quarter the HC and one of his assistants said, after a foul, that I was calling a lot and to "let them play". I responded with a very sarcastic line "It was my plan when I left my family at 6PM to blow my whistle this much and officiate such a sloppily played game." I said this while looking at them both.

Would I recommend this line to other officials probably not. But shortly after that the HC complained, again, about a call in a game in which he team was up 40. I told him flat out that I'm done with him and my patience are gone for the remainder of the game. 2 minutes later I have a block charge call that goes against him 80 feet away, he yells something across the court for lowering the shoulder, I T move one, game ends like 4 hours later.

Out of curiosity do others on here get so fed up with a game, like a huge sloppy blowout that you remove all rope for the winning team and their complaining?

You need to make a serious attitude adjustment. If you aren't enjoying officiating and wish to spend more time with your family, then block more dates or turn down more assignments. What you shouldn't do is behave in such a poor manner towards the coaches and/or the players. Your conduct was unprofessional and reflects poorly on all officials.
Keep it to the simple, "Coach, that's enough" and "Coach, no more." If it continues, simply whistle and T.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You need to make a serious attitude adjustment. If you aren't enjoying officiating and wish to spend more time with your family, then block more dates or turn down more assignments. What you shouldn't do is behave in such a poor manner towards the coaches and/or the players. Your conduct was unprofessional and reflects poorly on all officials.
Keep it to the simple, "Coach, that's enough" and "Coach, no more." If it continues, simply whistle and T.

I usually agree with this sentiment. Why do coaches get free passes for their behavior?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by deecee

Why do coaches get free passes for their behavior?

We're supposed to be the unemotional arbiters of the game. Just the way it is.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

We're supposed to be the unemotional arbiters of the game. Just the way it is.

Stating a fact that a game is sloppy isn't emotional.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by deecee

Stating a fact that a game is sloppy isn't emotional.

You're missing the point. We are held to a higher standard of comportment because we are supposed to be the unemotional arbiters of the game. It's generally more acceptable for some coaches to act the way they do because they have an emotional investment in the outcome.

That doesn't make it right but it's true.

[JRutledge]

"If you keep yelling at me about what I am supposed to do, then you will not be able to stand very long" then walk away. Problem solved or just give the T if you have dealt with the coach earlier.

Usually they get the message. I do not pussy foot with coaches. You want to be big and bad, I can be worse. And I will win in the end.

Peace

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

You're missing the point. We are held to a higher standard of comportment because we are supposed to be the unemotional arbiters of the game. It's generally more acceptable for some coaches to act the way they do because they have an emotional investment in the outcome.

That doesn't make it right but it's true.

I've been doing this 15 years. I get the point. I'm over the point. There are times where toeing the company line doesn't get anything resolved. Would I recommend sarcastic responses to newer officials? No. But after a while enough is enough and I'm ok with NOT going to "rulebook" responses. Part of the art is how do you handle responses when you stray off course. That's where experience kicks in. Hopefully.

And saying we don't have an emotional investment is balderdash. We are human. Sometimes we get angry, happy, sad, and we may try our best to keep these "out" but that's unrealistic. First you have to accept them in before you can deal with your reactions. None more true than an ahole coach that crosses the line and gets T'd up. Say what you want but there are times where I get pissed after the T because they were complete jerks. A very small percentage of people in life NEVER have emotion. They are usually sociopaths. I don't think I'm one of them.

[CJP]

Originally Posted by Welpe

We're supposed to be the unemotional arbiters of the game. Just the way it is.

I agree. I try to not respond to comments from coaches. Getting into a dialog with coaches can result in an emotional response. If I must respond to a comment then more than likely a "T" is coming or is very close. We are not perfect and sometimes do get sucked into an exchange with a coach. Best practice, in my opinion, is to assess the "T" and move on, do not engage.